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Jun 12th, 2005 at 4:39pm

Jared   Offline
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Hello all, as you may recall I've inherited a 1965 Comet Caliente and
didn't have any real idea of what kind of work it was going to take
to
get it back to a good condition, or even drivable condition.

However there has been breaking news in this case! Wink

Today while I was up at my grandmothers house in Connueat Ohio I ran
into the neighbor, (go figure). Anyways he came over and helped me
look over everything to see what I would need to have worked on
before
I took it on the road. After about 2 hours of going over the car he
decided that the only thing it really needs to be taken care of is
the
addition of some power steering fluid in the resevoir. He said there
was no need to hurry to get it, but it is a little lower than
average.

So reading in my shop manual it says to use automatic transmission
fluid in the power steering? Understanding that this is from 40 years
ago, I hesitate to put automatic transmission fluid from today in and
have it be wrong. Can someone shed some light on what to use? I would
really appreciate it.. Wink

As always she started right up without a problem, ideled a little
slow, but that could be partly because it has been awhile since it
has
been run, and even longer since it has really been on the road.

First thing we did on theway out of the drive way was to check the
brakes, which seemed to work quite well! They didn't grab, or pull to
one side or the other which is always fun.

Next we took her around the block there and back by the house, then
decided to venture a little further and put some gas back into the
nearly empty tank. fortunate for us there is a locally owned station
which doesn't charge too much about a mile down the street.

From what I have read I believe that the car come standard with a 20
gallon tank, we however did not test that theory, but only put in a
little over 12. And all the while we were continually checking
underneath the car to be sure that there weren't any fuel running out
of unseen holes in the tank.

After that we cruised around the block, down by the beach (Lake erie)
and back to the house to park it for the night.

Only concern I might have with the car as of today is the engine temp
gauge was registering really low, so I'm not sure if it is working
100% correctly. After about 20 minutes of run time the temperature in
any other car I have drove tends to pick up quite a bit. Especially
since we weren't cruising too fast.

All in all I deem it a pretty successful trip up there again, even
though we didn't have the time to take the 37 ford or the 48 Willy's
jeepster that still belong to my grandmother out for a drive. Just
had
enough time to start them up and let them idle for awhile.

Sorry for the long story, but as you can tell I'm quite enthused
about
this still!

Some more photos of the car can be found here:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=83261525507&page=1&sort_ord...

Jared

P.S. I spent quite a bit of time looking around the car and from the
looks of it there isn't that much rust anywhere. The floor pans are
accessible through layers of carpet and had a little rust, but
nothing
major, doors seemed along the same line from what I could tell.. Smiley

 
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Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2005 at 5:23pm

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A 40 year old car shouldn't have power steering. But if it does, then modern fluid shouldn't harm it.
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2005 at 5:59pm

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lol, it's got power steering AND power brakes as optional equipment! Smiley Can't beat that can ya! Wink

I've just gotten word from a fellow comet owner on the net that a Ford type ATF fluid would be the best.. Wink
 
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Reply #3 - Jun 12th, 2005 at 6:54pm

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A 40 year old car shouldn't have power steering. But if it does, then modern fluid shouldn't harm it.

Power steering is not uncommon in a car that old, but it wouldn't have been standard probably.  My 1969 has power steering and it is original.  I would just use power steering fluid-that shouldn't be a problem.  When you mix oils like that (adding transmission fluid) you run the risk of damaging seals in the pump.  The power steering fluid you can get at stores today will work fine.  Its made for that application and thats what I used in my 1969 Camaro.
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 13th, 2005 at 3:06pm

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Well that sounds plausible, I think what I'll do next time I'm up there is drain the system carefully and refill with standard power steering fluid Smiley

Seems like the way to go.. Wink
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2005 at 8:35pm

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Thats probably the best plan, who knows how long that fluid has been in there.
 
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Reply #6 - Jun 13th, 2005 at 9:31pm

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Well I'm guessing that it has probably been in there since about the middle of the summer of 2000 when I helped my grandfather replace some power steering lines that were leaking.. Wink

But since we can't tell what is in it, may as well replace it..Smiley

Only other thing that concerns me is the engine coolant temp gauge didn't seem to be going much farther past the COLD reading, if it moved at all...

Could easily be a bad or stuck gauge, but it could also be a bad thermostat as well...

SO what are some of the things I can try to look at before I take the thermostat or the gauge out and replave them?  I know it would be difficult to find a replace ment gauge, but have already found several places that carry a replacement thermostat for the engine that I have in it currently.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated..Wink

Jared
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2005 at 10:13pm

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The temperature gauge could be a couple things.  It may very well be the thermostat like you said.  With Ford's, the thermostat is usually set up as a "safe" thermostat-meaning that if it fails it is designed to fail open.  This is so if it goes bad, the car doesn't overheat and blow a head gasket.  The easiest way to test and see if the thermostat is working or if it is bad and stuck open is to drive the car.  Once you have been driving for a while turn the heater on.  If the heater isn't warm and you have been driving long enough to where it should be-then your thermostat has gone out and is stuck open.  If the thermostat is bad, it is easy to replace and will only be a few dollars.

It could also be the water temperature sending unit.  This is a plug like thing that is screwed into the engine block, it senses the temperature and sends it back to the gauge-it could have gone bad.  I'm not sure how to test those, they have both electric and manual types and I don't know that much about them.  I do know that they are usually rather inexpensive and pretty easy to change.  I recently changed the one in my Camaro because i went to an electric gauge.

The last thing it oculd be is that the gauge is simply no good.  Gauges tend to be somewhat fragile and they sometimes just break.  If you really wanted to replace it (and wanted it to look original) you would have to find a replacement gauges and install it.  I doubt they make reproduction gauges for '65 Comets so you'd have to find an original and I have no idea what it would cost (it could be cheap but on the other hand it could be quite expensive).  I have personally paid over $200 for a reproduction stock style gauge for a car, but it was for a '69 Camaro which is a very popular model and everything is really spendy.  But, if the gauge is bad and you really want to replace it-an original might be expensive.  There is also several after market style gauges avilable that could be used instead.

I hope some of that helped.   Smiley
 
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Reply #8 - Jun 15th, 2005 at 5:20pm

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Allrighty, I appreciate the information..Smiley

I'm dying to get back up there and work on it some more to see what all I really have to work with..Smiley

And of course this weekend I've got an airshow and pancake flyin! Smiley
 
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