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Pink FLoyd together again!? (Read 996 times)
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'Another Brick in the Wall Pt. II' was part of a larger piece that included 'The Happiest Days of Our Lives' and segued into 'Mother.' When you take it out of the context of the album, the song loses it's entire meaning. Intact, it tells how Pink felt betrayed and abused by his school teachers (Mark!) and how he rebelled inwardly. Played alone, the song is nothing more that one gimmicky catchphrase. It's little more than some of that Twisted Sister 'We're not Gonna Take it' crap from the 80's...
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Yeah and I don't dispute that but it is still a catchy and radio friendly pop song.
I am a huge fan of progressive music and all it's concepts and wierd time signatures but success comes from good melodies not the main concept.
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I wouldn't quite call Floyd radio friendly. To this day, I hate hearing any Pink Floyd music on the radio, because I prefer to sit down and listen to the whole album. This is especially true for Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall.
"Animals" and "Wish you were here" are also Pink Floyd masterpieces which HAVE to be listened to as an entire album..
Also, don't forget their humour.. listen to "Arnold Layne".... Nicking ladies underwear from their washing lines... I ask you!
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Yeah and I don't dispute that but it is still a catchy and radio friendly pop song.
I am a huge fan of progressive music and all it's concepts and wierd time signatures but success comes from good melodies not the main concept.
Papa, you're pretty young, aren't you?
The ide behind the music of Pink Floyd is that you
experience
it, not listen to it. There is nothing wrong with putting out a three minute song that is ends, and you move on. But Floyd back in the day, never look at just one song. Floyd (before Waters left) always looked at the album as an entity, not just a collection of songs. After Roger Waters left, they seem to have lost that focus, even to the point of releasing a greatest hits album (Relics notwithstanding).
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So if you're looking at Pink Floyd with the same eyes you look at AC/DC or Rush or The Beatles with, you are only getting half the picture. Looking at 'Comfortably Numb' or 'Welcome to the Machine' or 'Time' as a single song you only get a glimmer of the spectacle that they could be.
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To make true sense of The Wall you've got to watch the movie.
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Kevin I may be young but am no novice to progressive music or "getting" an album as a whole. I know that in order to know Floyd you have to experience it.
Prog is still alive and well recently with even more complex albums than Floyd in the having to experience thing. Albums like Frances the Mute, Scenes From a Memory, Amplifier, Bridge Across Forever....etc. These albums are only cohesive as a whole even more so than Floyd.
I agree with you on the whole thing your getting at, I am just saying that in order for them to get that exposure they needed that radio friendly sound along with the meaning in order to gain the huge levels of exposure they had. Other bands with other such kinds albums never gained the same exposure (bands like Yes, Kansas and Marillion.) I'm just saying they have to be enormously talented to achieve this sound whilst maintaining the meaning.
Fair comment on AC/DC lol it isn't exactly intellectual stuff but Rush was just as immersive as Pink Floyd back in the 70's. A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres were albums that were extremely deep and had meanings and concepts.
Don't write me off because I'm young heh, I'm on the same page as you with this
P.S. Woody I got the Wall on DVD and it is a truely awesome film, you gotta love Gerald Scarfe's cartoons 8)
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Rush was just as immersive as Pink Floyd back in the 70's. A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres were albums that were extremely deep and had meanings and concepts.
P.S. Woody I got the Wall on DVD and it is a truely awesome film, you gotta love Gerald Scarfe's cartoons 8)
Two of my favorite Rush albums.
I know of a Scania 16litre artic that has Gerald Scarfe's "Wall" cartoons air brushed onto its paintwork, I'll have to get a piccy of it.
To truly appreciate Floyd ,or indeed, Rush, you need to see them live, something I have done on both counts.
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I have seen both as well.
Floyd was unfortunately sans Waters and was only 8 so coudn't really appreciate it.
Rush however I saw last September and that was a three and a half hour wonder to behold.
It was hands down the best concert I have seen yet although I would think that Floyd back in 1980 would have given them a run for their money, luckily Rush have only gotten better and better as they get older.
If you get the chance Scania catch Rush on their next tour, I guarantee you won't be dissapointed (deaf though lol they were much louder than any other band I've seen lol they made Metallica's amps seem like hairdryers 8) )
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I have seen both as well.
Floyd was unfortunately sans Waters and was only 8 so coudn't really appreciate it.
Rush however I saw last September and that was a three and a half hour wonder to behold.
It was hands down the best concert I have seen yet although I would think that Floyd back in 1980 would have given them a run for their money, luckily Rush have only gotten better and better as they get older.
If you get the chance Scania catch Rush on their next tour, I guarantee you won't be dissapointed (deaf though lol they were much louder than any other band I've seen lol they made Metallica's amps seem like hairdryers 8) )
Get the "Pulse" tour DVD, or VHS , my friend, I'm not sure if its been released on DVD, however an audio-visual feast of Floyd it is.
It contains footage of the shows at Earls Court, London UK,and I think, the show I attended.
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Thats where I was too lol 8)
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I love my Division Bell CD.
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Well said, all!
From "The British Invasion" by Nicolas Shaffner, 1983:
"Barrett found himself fronting a group, which he re-christened the Pink Floyd Sound, after a pair of Georgia blues musicians named Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. (The "Sound" soon fell by the wayside, though the band continued to be known as "the" Pink Floyd until the 1970's.)"
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I love my Division Bell CD.
Division Bell was "Pink Floyd's" last CD, and the second album to be produced after Roger Waters left and David Gilmour led, still with Nick Mason and Richard Wright.
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More like a Gilmour solo effort but still a nice CD.
I much prefer the big 4 albums like Animals, WYWH, Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall.
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For me it was really nice to see them playing together again
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