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May 25^th, 2005 at 4:22pm

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ok guys, after some serious thought ive decided to finally look for an american muscle car. The plan is to use it at the strip, and sunny days... ive been to look at two '67' mustangs this last weekend, but they werent exactly worth what was being asked for them.... so the hunt goes on! my favour to ask is for all you usa folk really... can you give me an idea what a good mk 1 mustang, a dodge charger and mercury couger are going for in your neck of the woods? the reason being i may well end up importing one if i cant find any decent ones here. basically i want a fairly standard one, but minor mods would be ok. cheers guys, nick (in the land of the ford fiesta.... Cry

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Reply #1 - May 25^th, 2005 at 4:26pm

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look for a 1969 mustang, or even a 1969 camaro. This is something richie knows alot about so he might be able to best help you.

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Reply #2 - May 25^th, 2005 at 5:55pm

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It all comes fown to what you want. If you do some research about American muscle cars (especially GM cars-but all American muscle cars from that era) you'll find an amazing number of options. So, the prices can really vary. You say your looking for a car for the strip-so I'd imagine that originality (engine and such) is not a huge concern. Do you want a car that already has a powerful engine (if so, how much power-again assuming a non-stock motor) or are you planning on building an engine on your own.

Personally, I'd reccomend a Camaro but thats just a personal preference thing Wink

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. Also, one thing to consider about Charger's (since you listed that as one you want) is they arer MUCH heavier than cars like Mustangs & Camaros so for racing that is a factor (although I love Charger's and the fastest car I've ever been in was a '70 Charger).

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Reply #3 - May 25^th, 2005 at 9:10pm

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they probably would be very very expensive in england. over here good condition:

mk 1 mustang - depends on what you want. the price is any where from $9,000-$33,000 for a good first gen mustang (non boss/shelby/mach) (early shelby 350's are between $40g-60g; 500's start in the $60g's) (mach 1's go for $25-50g) (boss 302's start at $40g and boss 429's start at $70g)

Dodge charger 68-72 chargers are all over the place in price, but for a good condtion 440 R/t expect to be north of $27,000 up to about 50g for a nice 68 rt, and hemis are rediculous ($68,000 and up)!

mercury couger 67-70 289s: are going for about $10,000-$13,000 in "good" condition

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Reply #4 - May 26^th, 2005 at 1:47am

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they probably would be very very expensive in england.

You also have to remember about the price of gas as well. I don't want to change your mind or anything (IMHO there's nothing better than an American Muscle Car) but keep in mind that these cars don't get much better than 10-15 mpg. With the price of gas over in England, thats deffinately something worth considering.

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Reply #5 - May 26^th, 2005 at 6:45am

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cheers guys, i reckon im gonna go for a mustang. im not really bothered about fuel consumption as it would only be used for the strip and the odd sunny weekend. besides, my little peugeot 205 only manages about 20 mpg, so im used to it!! although i know a big v8 will be even thirstier...
having given it some thought i suppose im looking for a car in good condition, bodywork/running gear being more important than engine condition as i'll probably be building an engine myself. my budget is about £10'000, which works out to about $18'000... ive wanted one for so long, and now im in the position to get one i have to do it...i think the plan is to import one from the u.s, and get a mini holiday out of it too Wink

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if anyone in the u.s can put me onto any dealers/private ads i'd be very gratefull! cheers, nick

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Reply #6 - May 26^th, 2005 at 4:21pm

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Living in the UK: get a diesel landie before the green mafia bans anything with an over 3 liters engine

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Reply #7 - May 26^th, 2005 at 4:24pm

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mustang or pile of rubbish like land rover. since this is a play toy why buy the land rover?

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Reply #8 - May 26^th, 2005 at 5:14pm

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been there, done that...except it had a 3.9 rover v8 lump in it Wink

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funnily enough that wasnt too good on fuel either..

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Reply #9 - May 26^th, 2005 at 6:45pm

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Sorry all you American Muscle Car fans, but, having driven all types of crazy cars over the years, one car stands out from all the others.

BMW E30 M3.

If I had the money for a spare car and, a track pass, there is no other car that comes close imo.

Except, perhaps, an M3 CSL. Wink

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I suppose it depends if you want to wallow , or, go round corners.

BTW, 20mpg from a Pug 205? Has that got the landy's old V8 in it? Tongue

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Reply #10 - May 26^th, 2005 at 6:49pm

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the whole point of the old american muscle car is raw power though, its not about creature comforts or how well it performs going round a corner. Hell the Dodge charger struggles to stay in a straight line. Awesome car Grin

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Reply #11 - May 26^th, 2005 at 10:54pm

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Volvo-great car. Sturdy, safe, reliable, fast.

Or try a Mazda MX-3. It is a great starter car- You learn alot from it. Like corrosion, and how to fix the unfixable.

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Reply #12 - May 27^th, 2005 at 1:29am

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Volvo-great car. Sturdy, safe, reliable, fast.

Or try a Mazda MX-3. It is a great starter car- You learn alot from it. Like corrosion, and how to fix the unfixable.

Nah, there's nothing like a muscle car. Thats the way to go. Wink

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Reply #13 - May 27^th, 2005 at 7:59am

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the whole point of the old american muscle car is raw power though, its not about creature comforts or how well it performs going round a corner. Hell the Dodge charger struggles to stay in a straight line. Awesome car Grin

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Any car that can't stay in a straight line is a very bad design.
Plus, 240hp from eight cylinders is simply pathetic.

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Reply #14 - May 27^th, 2005 at 9:57am

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Any car that can't stay in a straight line is a very bad design.
Plus, 240hp from eight cylinders is simply pathetic.

Chargers can stay in a straight line, I've driven them-they're a lot of fun. They are a large car that has very poor handling, but they are fast.

BUt 240hp, they have more than that. The performance V8s they had ranged from 335-425hp. They had a 318ci V8 motor that had around 240-but it was an economy engine with a 2-bbl carb-not intended for performance use.

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Reply #15 - May 27^th, 2005 at 1:59pm

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E46 M3 CSL
Engine Type: Inline-6
Displacement cu in (cc): 198 (3246)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 360(265) / 7900
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 274(370) / 4900

360BHP with the suspension to handle it! 8)

E30 M3 USA Model Specification.

Cylinders:
16 valve inline 4
Capacity:
152.2 Cu.in
Power:
195
Torque:
70 ft/lbs.
Weight:
2733 lbs.
Horsepower/Weight:
14.02 lbs./hp
Length:
171.1 in.
Width:
66.1 in.
Height:
53.9 in.
Wheelbase:
101.0 in.
Top Speed:
143mph
Speed (0-50 mph):
5.5 sec

Muscle Cars...... Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - May 27^th, 2005 at 9:22pm

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elwellnick24, i would start with motors.ebay.com and search for mustangs, ask tones of questions and look for cars with lots of pictures!Quote:

E46 M3 CSL
Engine Type: Inline-6
Displacement cu in (cc): 198 (3246)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 360(265) / 7900
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 274(370) / 4900

360BHP with the suspension to handle it! 8)

the CSL is a bit too much money for the option i would rather get a m3 competiton package and put on an activewerks supercharger and pocket the extra couple $100's

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Reply #17 - May 28^th, 2005 at 8:52am

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Living in the UK: get a diesel landie before the green mafia bans anything with an over 3 liters engine

Preferably a pre 1968 Series 2. MMMMM.... Nice car.

If you brought the V8 landrover then of course if was rubbish on fuel. It's a 40 year old gas guzzler. The diesels are far more economical and far from rubbish as Craig seems to think. I mean, hey, if they were rubbish cars, then why hasn't the design changed in 50 years? Grin

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Reply #18 - May 28^th, 2005 at 9:27am

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Only here could we go from American Muscle cars, to BMW CSL's then, Landrovers!

Trabants to follow soon..... Grin

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Reply #19 - May 28^th, 2005 at 1:38pm

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i get 20 mpg from my 205 cos its on throttle bodies, has a big valve head (with other mods) and a supercharger from a mini cooper s. I suppose when im not ragging it i can get about 25-28 mpg, but thats not often....
as i said before, i want the car for the strip mainly, ive got my 205 and my suzuki gixxer for the roads/track..

ps. im going to view a '69 mustang in 'bullet green' tomorrow... Grin

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Reply #20 - May 28^th, 2005 at 2:06pm

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I dont mean land rovers are rubbish cars, but for what nick wants a car for they are.

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Reply #21 - May 28^th, 2005 at 2:44pm

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Trabants to follow soon..... Grin

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Reply #22 - May 28^th, 2005 at 2:56pm

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I dont mean land rovers are rubbish cars, but for what nick wants a car for they are.

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Reply #23 - May 28^th, 2005 at 2:58pm

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i got ya craig, landrovers are excellent for doing what they were designed for, i had mine when i lived on a farm and it was great fun for playin in the fields/woods.
ps. i actually saw a trabant yesterday at my local pub!
and yes, it was real!! lol

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