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May 25^th, 2005 at 1:18pm

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Check this out:
System components supplied and built by Alienware (note all tick boxes you can't see are default):

£2611.86

The Same system again but with ebuyer:

£1637.25

That is a lot of payware... Shocked

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Reply #1 - May 25^th, 2005 at 6:52pm

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Yup, don' take rocket science to figure out Alienware is teh suck for that very reason. But as the song goes "If youve got the money ive got the time." Erm mebe not I bet the ppl buildin them things are makin min wage. Tongue

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Reply #2 - May 25^th, 2005 at 10:24pm

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Couldn't agree more.

Alienware just simply suck.

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Reply #3 - May 25^th, 2005 at 10:54pm

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Alienware PC's are targeted at people who are "alien" to PC knowledge.

Instead of informing their prospective customers of the facts and offering great PC's at great prices, they whack a few high spec components in a pretty box and charge like wounded bulls.

Who can blame them I guess? There must be a plethora of disgruntled customers from other major brands looking for an alternative supplier who promise performance, and who, no doubt, have spent years and a small fortune trying to get their PC's to perform as they should.

I would like to think the days are numbered that the big boys operate like they do, but there still seems to be plenty of people (probably the vast majority) who are still more or less hardware ignorant and get sucked in to the advertising hyper vortex.

NNNNNOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!!! Shocked

My prediction: Assuming that no radical PC industry changes are imminent, I believe education and awareness in general will cause a decline in the major players sales as more people make smarter purchases through smaller suppliers with reasonable offerings.

Good business planning would dictate that the big guys stay one step ahead by offering better products at more competitive prices. I think we are seeing the beginning of this now.

But did they shut the gate after the horse already bolted? I think not. If they act quickly and remain competitive, they should retain their market dominance.
The public's dependency on current retail structure should help them. ( I guess they all shop at Walmart!)

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Reply #4 - May 26^th, 2005 at 4:19pm

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What? No Flight Stick!

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System components supplied and built by Alienware (note all tick boxes you can't see are default):
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£2611.86

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Same price Different league...

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AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4000BNBOX) (CP-120-AM) £299.95

DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-011-DF) £119.95

Corsair 2GB DDR XMS3200C2PT TwinX (2x1GB) CAS2 (MY-079-CS) £159.95

OcUK ATI Radeon X850 XT PE 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI/CRT (PCI-Express) - OEM (GX-027-OK) £279.95

Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD) £104.95

Maxtor MaxLine III NCQ 300GB 7L300SO SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-052-MD) £119.95

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro 7.1 Sound Card - Retail (SC-028-CL) £131.90

Enermax Noisetaker 485W EG495AX-VE(G) SFMA ATX2.0 PSU (CA-007-EN) £54.95

CoolerMaster Stacker STC-T01 - Silver Trim (No PSU) (CA-054-CM) £89.70

Apple 20" Cinema Widescreen LCD Monitor (MO-002-AP) £472.50

Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3100 - Retail (KB-056-LG) £69.30

Logitech Z-5500 THX® Certified 5.1 505 Watts Speakers - Retail (SP-021-LG) £184.00

Saitek X52 Flight Controller And Throttle Joystick (GC-031-SK) £69.75

Subtotal £2,156.80
VAT £377.44
Total £2,534.24

Or,

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AMD Athlon FX55 San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADAFX55BNBOX) (CP-125-AM) £524.95 £524.95
DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-011-DF)
£119.95 £119.95
G.Skill 1GB DDR LA PC4800 (2x512MB) Dual Channel Kit (F1-3200DSU2-1GBLA) (MY-000-GS)
£179.95 £359.90
OcUK ATI Radeon X850 XT PE 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI/CRT (PCI-Express) - OEM (GX-027-OK)
£279.95 £279.95
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD)
£104.95 £104.95
Samsung SpinPoint P SP1614C 160GB SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-012-SA)
£54.95 £54.95
OcUK Value Floppy Drive - Silver (CD-001-AP)
£6.50 £6.50
NEC ND3520 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - OEM (CD-013-NE)
£28.50 £28.50
ThermalRight XP-90C (Socket 754/939/478 ) Heatsink (HS-022-TR)
£29.95 £29.95
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Sound Card - Retail (SC-024-CL)
£112.95 £112.95
CoolerMaster Stacker STC-T01 - Silver Trim (No PSU) (CA-054-CM)
£89.70 £89.70
Coolermaster Cross Flow Fan (FG-007-CM)
£19.95 £19.95
Ultra X-Connect 500W ATX Cable Detachable PSU - Titanium with UV Blue (CA-005-UX) £84.95 £84.95
Apple 20" Cinema Widescreen LCD Monitor (MO-002-AP)
£472.50 £472.50

Subtotal £2,289.65
VAT £400.69
Total £2,690.34

Finally, if you'd like a 512 MB Graphics Card (!)

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AMD Athlon FX55 San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADAFX55BNBOX) (CP-125-AM)
£524.95 £524.95
DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-011-DF)
£119.95 £119.95
G.Skill 1GB DDR FF PC4800 (2x512MB) Dual Channel Kit (F1-4800DSU-1GBFF) (MY-004-GS)
£249.95 £249.95
XFX GeForce 6800 Ultra 512MB DDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (PVT45FYDF7) (GX-041-XF)
£499.95 £499.95
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD)
£104.95 £209.90
Western Digital Secure Connect Serial ATA Cable (CB-000-WD)
£4.95 £9.90
Enermax Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE(W) SFMA ATX2.0 SLI Compliant PSU (CA-021-EN)
£79.95 £79.95
NEC ND3540 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-019-NE)
£28.95 £28.95
ThermalRight XP-120 (Socket 754/939/478 ) Heatsink (HS-017-TR)
£29.95 £29.95
Arctic Cooling nVidia 5 (6800 Series) VGA Silencer (HS-009-AR)
£11.95 £11.95
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX Sound Card - OEM (SC-023-CL)
£44.95 £44.95
Coolermaster Wave Master - Black (No PSU) (CA-037-CM)
£84.95 £84.95
Viewsonic VP171B-2 17" LCD Monitor - Black (MO-033-VS)
£195.00 £195.00
Saitek X52 Flight Controller And Throttle Joystick (GC-031-SK)
£69.75 £69.75
Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers - Retail (SP-039-CL)
£68.65 £68.65
Logitech Cordless Optical Desktop Rechargeable Black/Silver - OEM (KB-058-LG)
£29.95 £29.95
Subtotal £2,258.65
VAT £395.27
Total £2,653.92

Alienware would'nt get a look in if it was me & my hard-earned.

If only I could afford £2.6k on a PC! Roll Eyes

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« Last Edit: May 26^th, 2005 at 6:06pm by 4_Series_Scania »

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Reply #5 - May 26^th, 2005 at 6:07pm

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Two more silly spec PC's.... Grin

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AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3700BNBOX) (CP-121-AM) 1
£209.95 £209.95
Corsair 2GB DDR XMS3200C2PT TwinX (2x1GB) CAS2 (MY-079-CS) 1
£159.95 £159.95
Connect3D ATI Radeon X850 XT PE 256MB DDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-029-CO) 1
£289.95 £289.95
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 200GB ST3200822AS SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-016-SE) 1
£62.95 £62.95
Epox EP-9NPA+ Ultra nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-027-EP) 1
£79.95 £79.95
Pioneer DVR-109XLS 16 x 16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Limited Edition Brushed Aluminium) OEM (CD-026-PO) 1
£34.00 £34.00
Lian-Li PC V1000 Silver Aluminium Midi-Tower (No PSU) (CA-024-LL) 1
£119.95 £119.95
Logitech Z-5500 THX® Certified 5.1 505 Watts Speakers - Retail (SP-021-LG) 1
£184.00 £184.00
HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon 7000 64MB DDR TV-Out (PCI) - Retail (R7000-PTW64D) (GX-016-HT) 1
£19.95 £19.95
LG L1980U 19" LCD Monitor (MO-025-LG) 3
£320.00 £960.00 *
Tagan TG480-U01 480W ATX2.0 SLi Compliant Silent PSU (CA-000-TG) 1
£59.95 £59.95
Subtotal £2,180.60
VAT £381.61
Total £2,562.21

* 3 x 19" LG TFTs Picture FS2004 & that!

And...

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AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3200BPBOX) (CP-118-AM) 1
£129.95 £129.95
Epox EP-9NPA+ Ultra nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-027-EP) 1
£79.95 £79.95
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS4400C25PT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2.5 (TWINX1024-4400C25PT) (MY-068-CS) 1
£114.95 £114.95
HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon X850 XT ICEQII TURBO 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (RX850XT-ICEQ) (GX-028-HT) 1
£279.95 £279.95
Maxtor MaxLine III NCQ 250GB 7L250SO SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-053-MD) 1
£89.95 £89.95
Silverstone Temjin TJ05 - Black (No PSU) (CA-007-SV) 1
£98.00 £98.00
Enermax Noisetaker 485W EG495AX-VE(G) SFMA ATX2.0 PSU (CA-007-EN) 1
£54.95 £54.95
NEC ND3540 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-019-NE) 1
£28.95 £28.95
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro 7.1 Sound Card - Retail (SC-028-CL) 1
£131.90 £131.90
Logitech Z-5500 THX® Certified 5.1 505 Watts Speakers - Retail (SP-021-LG) 1
£184.00 £184.00
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop v2.0 - Retail (KB-018-LG) 1
£99.95 £99.95
Saitek X52 Flight Controller And Throttle Joystick (GC-031-SK) 1
£69.75 £69.75
Viewsonic VX912B X Series 19" LCD Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-014-VS) 3
£239.95 £719.85 *
HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon 7000 64MB DDR TV-Out (PCI) - Retail (R7000-PTW64D) (GX-016-HT) 1
£19.95 £19.95
Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - OEM (SW-022-MS) 1
£81.40 £81.40

Subtotal £2,183.45
VAT £382.11
Total £2,565.56

* Multi Monitor Heaven again! 8)

I love to spend money thats not mine! So easy! Grin

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Reply #6 - May 26^th, 2005 at 6:08pm

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Yeah I knew a kid that said he was gonna spend 2 grand on an Alienware, well I showed him what he could get for 2K at Alienware and what I could get him for 2k. At alienware he would have got an AMD 64 3200 CPU, 6600GT, 512 megs generic memory, 80 gig SATA for his 2 grand. Note this was about 8 months ago current prices have changed. I told him he was wastin cash strolled on to new egg. I was able to get him an AMD64 3500+ cpu, 1 Gig Cosair XMS ram, 6800 Ultra, 160 gig Seagate SATA, ASUS A8V motherboard the DVD burner, 500W PSU, heatsink, 56k modem, case are in there too, all for 2200$. I built it for him free. Seriously there are many places you can buy computer from then alienware if you do not know how. I bought my first serious rig off ebay for 1000$, it had Athlon XP 1.2 Ghz cpu, ABIT motherboard, 512 PC-2100 ram, 100 gig EIDE, CD drive, DVD drive, SB audigy pro sound card with 4.1 surround and GF4 MX440. So no not the top dog in compers even in its day by far but def a good 1 grand cmputer when I bought it. So even ebay is a great option, then I fried it...

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