Simviation Forum - German Conceptual Economic Models.

Reply #15 - May 5^th, 2005 at 7:30am

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Andrew, I think you've gotten something wrong. If you change one major thing in history, you can't assume that the time after it contains the same elements as the 'standard' history timeline.
No war -> no Cold War, no Warzaw Pact.

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Reply #16 - May 5^th, 2005 at 7:51am

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If you change one major thing in history, you can't assume that the time after it contains the same elements as the 'standard' history timeline.

Agreed. I was thinking the same. These "what if" scenarios are very interesting but there are so many things to consider it's impossible to know what would have happened. It might be more interesting to think about - What if Adolf Hitler had never been born.

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Reply #17 - May 5^th, 2005 at 8:13am

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What if hed had not been refused at the arts college?

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Reply #18 - May 5^th, 2005 at 8:36am

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Germany's answer was called "National Socialism", "socialism" not being a dirty word at the time, but being extermely nationalist and hardly socialist. The US answer was "Roosevltian socialism" (my own term for the New Deal and carrying every connotation of the dirty word).

Considering that the majority of countries in Europe including the UK are run by Socialist governments, I never understood why this is considered a dirty word in the US. I obviously don't know enough about US history.

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Reply #19 - May 5^th, 2005 at 1:17pm

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The word "socialism" conjures up 2 of an American's greatest fears.

First, that it is repugnant to the very idea of capitalism. Why should I work if the government is just going to take it all away in confiscatory taxes? I'll have the same standard of living if I do nothing.

Second, that it is repugnant to our constitution that requires the government to keep its nose out of our affairs. Big Brother is going to watch and control everything I do and secret police will throw me in jail without charges for thinking the wrong way. (Yes, I see the irony of America doing that very thing today.)

Personally, I have no problem with democratic socialism. If you want to live under a socialist government you should certainly have the right to do so. I believe, however, that practically any service provided by a government can be provided more efficiently by private enterprise. I'd like to see the government stick to basic governmental functions like building roads, coining money and providing defense so I could pay less in taxes.

Sorry to get off topic.

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Reply #20 - May 5^th, 2005 at 1:49pm

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I'd like to see the government stick to basic governmental functions like building roads, coining money and providing defense so I could pay less in taxes.

Sorry to get off topic.

Sorry to take this further but if a government stops providing for it's people there then you may save on taxes, but that will be more than counterbalanced on the extra you pay for transport, healthcare, education etc and as a result end up where you started or god forbid, worse off.

Anyway. Hitler may have been in prison up to december 1924. But let me remind you he wrote a book while inside. Quite a way to influence your followers eh?

Finally, if there was no war then Russia would not have had an excuse to take control of Poland. The warsaw pact and therefore the cold war would never have happened and there would undoubtably be far less in the way of nuclear weapons kicking around if any at all. Tongue

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Reply #21 - May 6^th, 2005 at 8:03am

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You're quite correct in what you say in regard to one change they all change...I realised that as soon as I posted and I though oh feline lubrication! (yes I typed that myself)

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Reply #22 - May 6^th, 2005 at 11:26am

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Ive always wondered what would have happened if Germany had won the war.

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Reply #23 - May 6^th, 2005 at 11:38am

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Ive always wondered what would have happened if Germany had won the war.

Proper beer and Lederhosen for everyone! Wink

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Reply #24 - May 6^th, 2005 at 11:41am

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and france would have speaked german and denmark will be germanys foodstore Sad

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Reply #25 - May 6^th, 2005 at 1:40pm

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Lederhosen for everyone! Wink

Thats the thought that won it for us. Grin

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Reply #26 - May 6^th, 2005 at 3:28pm

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Thats the thought that won it for us. Grin

(As if we let the Bavarians be the representatives of the german culture - Prussia all the way!) Grin

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Reply #27 - May 6^th, 2005 at 8:34pm

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Yes!!! Prussia all the way!!

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Reply #28 - May 9^th, 2005 at 5:27am

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what the hell??! a conspiracy! bavaria is by far the best! we have the best beer, the hottest chicks and the most beautiful countryside Grin

ps: and as long as your not hanging out in some funky little village in the mountains, you won't see a single lederhose, i guarantee! Grin

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Reply #29 - May 10^th, 2005 at 7:31am

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what the hell??! a conspiracy! bavaria is by far the best! we have the best beer, the hottest chicks and the most beautiful countryside Grin

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure!

Btw: The Bundeswehr wanted to send me to Ulm (Bavaria). I refused, of course. Wink

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