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Taking my first trial flight! (Read 827 times)
May 1
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Hey,
I have just bought my first trial flight in a cessna 150 or 152. Im lookin VERY forward to it.
There are terms and conditions though, if i do well in the exams i can take it, if i dont well, my brother has it.
So i gotta do well!
Anyone been in a 150/152? whats it like!?
Hopefully by then i can get a new digital camera, and i will take some photos of my journey!
Thanks.
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cramped... Don't let the small size fool you. That plane has probably taught more people to fly than any other. It's one of the greatest planes ever built.
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LOL, really I feel the question should be: "WHo hasn't been in a 150 or 152.."
Seriously sounds like a good time..
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A 172 is cramped-I can only imagine a 150/152. But the trial flight is great, assuming you get the right instructor-on my discovery flight, I started the engine, taxied, took off, flew around, made the approach, and then my CFI took over for the pattern. Bout the only thing I didn't do was land!
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May 1
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Well im sixteen and the only planes ive been in are the commercial ones.
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May 1
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Very Small, but i've seen smaller
Good fun for starters though...
Where are you doing it Jimbo?
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Well im sixteen and the only planes ive been in are the commercial ones.
Jimbo
So am I
(I was actually 15 when I started)
Assuming you're the type, young guys normally make great pilots, if your attitude is right-and you should be fine there.
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15 here..
umm..
Grob Tutor
Grob Vigilant
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Tutor is more cramped than the vigi.. imo..
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Well im sixteen and the only planes ive been in are the commercial ones.
Jimbo
Well you have done well! I am nearly 18 and still haven't flown for real in my life yet. It doesn't cost much at all - but I have never needed to. It's most annoying to say the least!
Never mind - my turn will come some day!
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Here in the US the EAA has a program called "Young Eagles" and it's totally free for a 15 minute flight. I know, not long, but you do get to take control and it's good for seeing if you enjoy flying a little GA plane. That was my first flight in a GA plane. I've since been in a Cessna 177RG, but I was in the back so I didn't get to take control.
I wish you luck Jimbo!
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I took my disco flight last year and LOVED it. I was in a 172, and my instructor also let me do everything except land. It was hands down one of the most amazing experiences in my life!
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15 here..
umm..
Grob Tutor
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Tutor is more cramped than the vigi.. imo..
I'm one of the fortunate few to have flown the Chipmunk, Bulldog and Tutor in my time... First time I had control was in the Chipmunk when I was 14.
Interesting you mention the Tutor. Haven't had the chance to sample the Vigilant, but invariably when I went upside down in the Tutor my head would hit the canopy, however tight the straps are (but then again the "seats" in the t]Tutor are cr*p with their velcro in cushions - not that I needed them). Also took about 2 minutes before every flight winding the rudder pedals away from me - not good if the previous occupant had been 5' 5". Compared to some of the aircraft I flown though recently the Tutor is positively roomy!!!
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May 5
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Im doing my lesson at Sheffield City Airport.
(its on fs9, take a look V nice! birdman.uksd has done a nice scenery repaint of it)
Im looking forward to it, i know its my first flight and people have been in loads of flights, but i will be returning! Im looking forward, and i will take some shots of the stunning area around where i live.
Thanks.
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Jimbo, being as its your first lesson, worry more about your flying than taking photos. Believe me when i say you wont realise how quickly tmie goes by when your up there busy learning. Also it is amazing how tired you'll feel at the end. The adrenalin rush from it will get you home though;) Have a great time.
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May 5
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Ok thanks! Its a 60min lesson i think, so i should spare 5 mins to take a couple of shots. Its a trial lesson and when im older im doing the proper lessons for sure!
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May 5
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Craig's right, have a before and after photo shot next to the plane on the ground, but leave your camera in its bag if you can - I'm sure your instructor will let you have control as much as he possibly can, so you won't have time for photos!!!
The most important thing is.....
ENJOY IT!!!
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May 5
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so i should spare 5 mins to take a couple of shots.
Go on then - but we want to see them in the photos section Jimbo!
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May 5
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The best thing to do is ask the instructor to take some pictures for you. I did in my second lesson, sadly i cant find them and i fear they were deleted from my old computer. Ask him to perhaps get a shot of you at the controls, and like Charlie said and before and after next to the plane. If there are scenery shots you want, just ask him/her to grab a couple, get all the hands on experience you can, trust me, you wont ever want to let go:)
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May 5
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Dont worry you certainly can, in a couple of weeks of course when the exams are over!
How different is the controls compared to the sim?
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Left right up and down should all be fairly familiar
. You won't need to use the rudders much, if at all. Expect the controls to be a little heavier than a pc yoke or joystick and you'll probably be in the left seat flying left handed...
Its 5 and a half years since I've flown a Cessna though, so I'm pushed to remember!!!
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May 5
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Much differant. The sensation of flight alone makes the whole experience much differant. The general handling is simmilar but thats about it. You might find yourself getting slapped on the wrist for looking at the instruments too often though.
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May 5
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Well can i change to a 90min lesson!?
(sorry im getting distracted by old politicians rambling on about politics)
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Well can i change to a 90min lesson!?
NO! NOT ALLOWED!
You obviously have much to learn about the aviation industry Jimbo. 90 minute lessons are ABSOLUTELY OFF-LIMITS!
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May 5
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Just stick with 60. Its pleanty for a first lesson, and have a good time.
And dont worry about politicians rambling on, my uncle and cousin are both heavily involved so i have to listen to it all the time. pleanty of sleep those days
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NO! NOT ALLOWED!
You obviously have much to learn about the aviation industry Jimbo. 90 minute lessons are ABSOLUTELY OFF-LIMITS!
OK!!!
And will the government just decide whos bl&&dy won, its annoying.
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I have to agree w/Craig- picture-taking is a distraction. If I were you, I'd leave it home, or have someone take a few snaps from the ground. Or maybe the instructor will take an inflight picture of you, if he or she feels it won't be too distracting.
I often regret that I have no pix of milestone flights like my first intro ride or my aerobatics lesson, but all I have to do is close my eyes, and it's all still there. Harder to share with others, but they'll just have to take your word that it was fun!
As for the 150: it's a good, solid, honest trainer, and not a bad recreational cross-country bird, either. You'll learn how to use rudder correction and how to use throttle for altitude, among other things. And they are a bit cramped, so don't be bashful about taking time to adjust your seat correctly before you set off. With a little work, almost any size person can get set up to fly safely and comfortably in a C150.
Enjoy!!!
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Well can i change to a 90min lesson!?
It might have been due to the cost or lack of instructors at the club I worked for but dual flying lessons were no longer than 30 minutes in my day. This didn't stop the average pupil getting their PPL in the normal 40 hour or special 30 hour courses - or the chief flying instructor amassing a record number of hours. As Craig & Rotty have said, leave the camera on the ground with a friend. Forget about taking photos & concentrate on the job in hand. Good luck.
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It might have been due to the cost or lack of instructors at the club I worked for but dual flying lessons were no longer than 30 minutes in my day.
I think the reason lessons are limited to 60 minutes or less, apart from cost, is the capacity of the student to take in what has been performed and demostrated during the flight. Certainly in my experience, the only training sorties I've completed which were well over the 60 minute mark were navigation exercises...
Three hour long sorties are much better than a single 3hrs, and leaves plenty of time for the important things in life, such as coffee and food. And the debrief of course...
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I gotta go against the crowd on this one and say take the camera. You only get one opportunity to fly for the first time and I say make the most of it. Just remember though, you do have a goal of familiarizing yourself with flying, and showing yourself what it takes to fly a real plane. You are not on a tourist flight, but you can have SOME fun. Just don't get too stupid with the camera and your instructor probably won't mind.
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I gotta go against the crowd on this one and say take the camera. You only get one opportunity to fly for the first time and I say make the most of it
I agree if the instructor is OK with it. Take a couple of shots by all means or ask the instructor to take them of you flying the plane. Depends what Jimbo wants out of his first flight. From my own experience I was too busy to think about taking photos even if I'd had a camera & been allowed to take it with me. I would say forget the photos & take full advantage of it. That 60 minutes will seem like 5 minutes anyway but you will remember it for the rest of your life.
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Thanks for the advice, we MIGHT and this is a very big might, we are considering having a 4 person cessna. So my father can come aswell, he wouldn't mine, well i hope!
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Thanks for the advice, we MIGHT and this is a very big might, we are considering having a 4 person cessna.
Probably a 172
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I'm surprised about the 30min and 60min lessons. At my school we are in the air for about 1.5 - 2 hours 3 days a week.
Enjoy your flight and definitely take a few photos, you'll regret it if you don't.
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I'm surprised about the 30min and 60min lessons. At my school we are in the air for about 1.5 - 2 hours 3 days a week.
Most places will do 60 minute lessons, partly as a/c hire is by the hour. Certainly in the training establishments I've seen, your able to fly two or three 1hr sorties in a day, which allows adequate time to reflect and debrief. 30 minute lessons are common only as tasters in the modern business, allowing people a cheaper way into the air.
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Unless you were reasonably well-off in the early 1960s when I'm talking about, 30 minutes would be all the average person could afford. Although you might not think so, flying is relatively much cheaper now & a Cessna 152 or 172 is much more economical than a Tiger Moth. One benefit of 30 minute lessons is that you get more take-offs & landings in a given number of hours. If it's planned properly by an experienced instructor I reckon you could learn almost as much in 30 minutes as in 1 hour in the air.
PS. I don't know how it's done now but flights were timed from chocks away to chocks under. There was much less traffic around then & not much time was wasted on the ground. I've noticed while hanging around on the runway threshold at Shoreham that some aircraft can hold for up to 15 minutes before taking off. I assume the pupil is paying for all this.
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30-60 minutes for the average lesson?
How do you get anything done?
My intro flight was scheduled for like an hour, anticipating 30 mins in the air. My lessons are scheduled for two hours. For my first few lessons we only got in an hour air time, but more recently, it's been more like 1.5 hours (Not including the x-country's, of course). I just don't see how I could get anything done in 30 minutes.
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30-60 minutes for the average lesson?
How do you get anything done?
My intro flight was scheduled for like an hour, anticipating 30 mins in the air.
As I said, less time was wasted on the ground. You could expect to have 25 of those 30 minutes in the air. This would be dual instruction & the majority of our pupils went solo in well under the 8 hours average. Cross country flights would obviously take longer.
PS. When you have a chief flying instructor of this calibre you can learn a lot in 30 minutes.
Cecil Pashley was instructing from 1911 until his licence was withdrawn in 1967. He passed away in 1969 aged 77. He was probably the most experienced flying instructor in the world.
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Thanks for the advice, we MIGHT and this is a very big might, we are considering having a 4 person cessna. So my father can come aswell, he wouldn't mine, well i hope!
Thanks!
Jimbo
Beware that a C172 will not really fit four adult-size people. That rear seat is OK for two kids, or one adult and a kid. Or maybe a couple of small adults who really like each other...
It's narrower than the back seat in an old VW Beetle.
BTW: My intro flight (in a Piper Tomahawk) was about 40 minutes on the engine... but I learned a little about taxiing, taking off, VFR navigation, turns, climbs, and descents, flying the pattern, and landing. My average lesson once I got started was about 1 hour...
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I will take that advice, as from now my dads on weight watchers. ANd thanks for everyone else on the tips and support! And most importantly enjoy the weekend!
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And most importantly enjoy the weekend!
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