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Apr 25th, 2005 at 11:17am

-sam-   Offline
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Hi there,

I have a problem with some planes.
Some planes wonīt follow the flightplan and crash.

I allready red the TTools help wich suggests to
use another .air file if a plane has problems with flying
or landing. This worked in some cases but in some cases
not.
Actually I would like to add the B-52 (freeware package)
as AI.
I create a flightplan, compile and the plane is where it should be. I follow the plane but in the moment
after start .. when it should make a turn in the direction
to the destination airport, it jiggles itīs wings, and
flies just staight forward until it crashes some mountain.
I tried the same with the default 747... and this works well
the plane turns in the right direction and anything is fine.
So I used the 747 air file.. renamed it, and copied it
to the b52 folder. But the same thing happend again
it just flies straight forward.
I also tried with  copying the autopilot section from the 747 aircraft.cfg to the b52 aircraft.cfg. without success.

I can only imagine that it is some variable in the
aircraft.cfg wich isnīt set right.
The plane itself flies well, and also the autopilot works well. (default 747 panel)

Someone has an idea how to get such planes to work as
AI ?

Alternatively could someone suggests a AI capable
B52 ?

Thank You !




 

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Reply #1 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 11:52am

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wild guess, but did you REBOOT the fs between changes? Changes usually won't take place until you do.
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Reply #2 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 12:01pm

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Yes I rebootet Fs after every change. Itīs
not only that b52 I īm having problems with. I allready
had the same issue with other planes, too.
But I usually found other models/packages
of the same plane that worked well.
But so far I didnīt find any other b52 nor
a solution to fix this problem.

 

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Reply #3 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 4:19pm

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This m-i-g-h-t help...try copying the bulk of the aircraft.cfg for the 747 file that works alright, into your B-52's aircraft.cfg.  Of course the top portion (aircraft name, manufacturer, etc.) will need to stay unchanged.  As this is an AI object, the difference in flight characteristics shouldn't be too obvious, as they are both large subsonic jets.
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 27th, 2005 at 11:19am

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AFAIK, there's no coding in FS9 to make aircraft fly around mountains. I know there's some AI terrain avoidance coded into FS9 but this does not preclude (addon) AI planes from mountain crashes.

If the rising terrain is in the vicinity of the ARR airport, I don't think there's much can be done about it.

If it's in the DEP airport area, one can include an alternate airport on a new track which misses the rising terrain and where the AI does a TNG before proceeding to DEST.

I too have tried editing the aircraft.cfg to change aircraft climb and descent rates but no joy.

Bill

P.S. If the rising terrain is on the AI approach path, the AI will often miss the terrain only to go missed and do endless go-arounds until disappearing into cyberspace.
 

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Reply #5 - Apr 27th, 2005 at 11:48am

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The problem is not really the mountain but the plane not following itīs assigned route. If there wouldnīt be mountains it would just fly straight forward until.. I
donīt know.. forever Smiley
I will try what CAFedm suggested.. But I will just create
a new model/texture folder inside the 747 dir and
copy the b52 model/textures to these folders.
Than I will just change the model= and texture=
variables of the aircraft.cfg to the b52 folders.
If this works and the b52 flies itīs route like the
747 does i will go through all aircraft.cfg sections
and check by trial and error what parameter causes the
problems..

I will let you know if this works or not !

Another little thing i recognized.. I made an ai flightplan
from eddm to lowi. when following the ai aircraft
on approach it goes straight through a huge mountain
without crashing.. for about 30seconds.. .
when observing the approach from the landing
runway the ai plane suddenly just comes out of the mountain and lands.... normal.
When i tried to follow the aircraft through the mountain
I crashed.. strange !
 

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Reply #6 - Apr 29th, 2005 at 12:27am

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Sam, do a search on AVSIM for my name, O'Brien.

I did a B-52 AI package, this should work with the freeware Buff as well.

http://community.webshots.com/album/122698236WADnXY

PM me if you have any problems!
 

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Reply #7 - May 9th, 2005 at 4:59am

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Thanks planespotter !!
Thatīs probabely the best solution !
Iīll download it and test it.

I tried now several things with the b52 non ai package
but i didnīt really get it to work.
when I just copy the model as explained above.. it works.
But of course the contact points didnīt fit. so I copied the contact point section from the b52 package... wich resultated
in a crash immediatelly.I think it must be something with a curve radius (wich i donīt know where to edit) or similar parameter. I recognized that also the default 747
cannot fly any approach and crashes for example when departure and arrival are the same airports. (works with all other standard planes)
 

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