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Apr 23^rd, 2005 at 5:15pm

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Another one of my favorites from Alphasim.

A beautiful Osprey flying out of Quantico Marine base this past winter just after a successful parachute exercise (based on a real training exercise).

Again hope you enjoy!!

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Reply #1 - Apr 23^rd, 2005 at 5:16pm

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The last one is cool Grin

Isnt there a Upgrade for that VC?

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Reply #2 - Apr 23^rd, 2005 at 10:56pm

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Killer shots as always Ramsa!

If there is an airshow with in 2 states of me I'm there&&&&&&

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Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2005 at 12:02pm

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Excellent. Grin

Can it do vertical take-offs and landings?

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Reply #4 - Apr 24^th, 2005 at 2:42pm

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Not in fs,
Due to none perfect flight dynamics, its near impossible to do this with the current fs's..

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Reply #5 - Apr 24^th, 2005 at 3:56pm

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Actually Andrew you can do an almost perfect vertical takeoff with only a slight roll forward.

In any case it is very realistic to the way the actual Osprey lifts off.

Landings are another story. It takes a lot of work to get this baby to actually do a totally vertical landing.

Seems much more difficult than most rotorcraft and has to be timed to do the transition from horizontal and with great care!

All that said it is great fun to fly and the modeling is outstanding.

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Reply #6 - Apr 24^th, 2005 at 7:32pm

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the problem is that fs can't handle thrust changing direction in relation to the aircraft. Designers have to get around the problem by creating a sort of insanely effective flaps system Undecided

Anywho fantastic shots mate

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Reply #7 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 2:53pm

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Get a harrier and throw the flaps down

You'll see the crazy flaps, hehe!

Great shots! I love the last one...but what's with the shadows? like they are comin off of nothing...

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Reply #8 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 3:18pm

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Probably the shadows look strange because of the angle of the shot or maybe they just look strange period LOL

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Reply #9 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 3:34pm

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Its just the textures

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Actually Andrew you can do an almost perfect vertical takeoff with only a slight roll forward.

Well i dont count that as a being able to do vertical takeoffs and landings.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 4:32pm

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Andrew,

Is there something wrong with my textures maybe you could suggest a solution. LOL

As far as whether you consider it a true vertical takeoff or not would seem to be a moot point since that is the way this particular aircraft takes off.

In fact so does say the SH-60 and numerous other vertical takeoff vehicles.

I try to stay away from opinions about different payware unless I have them and fly them.

I really like the products from Alphasim. They are a responsible and responsive site which offer great value for the money.

and I have no affiliation with them at all

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Reply #11 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 4:52pm

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Is there something wrong with my textures maybe you could suggest a solution. LOL

Lighten the top of the a/c

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In fact so does say the SH-60

But arnt we talkin about VTOL a/c.. not helicopters Roll Eyes

Yeah i know some t/o like that..
But fs still doesnt replicate vtol and stol properly

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Reply #12 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 6:17pm

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The Osprey is cool since it's so different. That hump for the handing wings gives a reptillian look.

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Reply #13 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 10:59pm

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Andrew,

Lighten the top of the AC???????????????????

Please could I have an explanation or maybe you could show me the difference in your shots.

Andrew do you have another sim that replicates it better than please tell me which one.

Thanks

Michael

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Reply #14 - Apr 29^th, 2005 at 11:57pm

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For my own sake after watching the conversation on this one, I see a great model with "light shadowing" appearing at the correct angles .........not that I'm an expert, but it all looks fine to me..........

.........very nice shots, once again Ramsa......... 8)

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Reply #15 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 2:39am

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With ya Ramsa! I just picked it up for myself! Couple of questions though...

1. Is it posible to hover with it (can the real one do that?)

2. Is there an update to make the VC gauges work? Don't get me wrong, it's okay if they don't, but it would be really cool if they did...

I also picked up the Cessna Bobcat...too bad they don't make a way to manually start up (without ctrl+e), but I can live with that! Grin

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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Reply #16 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 5:40am

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Lighten the top of the AC?

Please could I have an explanation or maybe you could show me the difference in your shots.

Andrew do you have another sim that replicates it better than please tell me which one.

What i ment was a reply to this:
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Great shots! I love the last one...but what's with the shadows? like they are comin off of nothing...

As i can see a patch of darkness on the top of the a/c..
All i did was retexture that part of the a/c...

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Reply #17 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 4:20pm

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You re-textured the ac?

You re-textured the ac and this affected the ground shadows? You've lost me on that one.

Michael
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Reply #18 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 4:25pm

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Look at the 1st pic..
on the 'spine' of the a/c

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Reply #19 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 4:26pm

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jordanj

As far as I know there is no alternative VC but I might be wrong.

It is possible to hover but it takes a very steady hand LOL and a lot of throttle control.

As to the detail of startup etc............ I think that this is part of why Alphasim can keep their prices down and still deliver a beautiful product.

However I have noticed that lately they have been producing cockpits in greater and greater detail.

Possibly they will release an updated VC soon.

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Reply #20 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 4:41pm

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Ok I looked on the spine of the AC and............................ I see nothing

To tell you the truth Andrew the original comment was about ground scenery shadows and now we are talking about the AC which has nothing to do with ground scenery shadows AT ALL

If you have an improved set of textures I am more than sure that Alphasim would be happy to receive them so that we could all benefit.

These shots were taken at a time of day when the shadows are very deep with Active Sky giving me the weather (5 layers).

These elements would increase the shadows on both the ac and the ground which was exactly what I wanted.

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Reply #21 - Apr 30^th, 2005 at 4:52pm

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Good enough! Thanks Ramsa and I like Alphasim's product very much!

I just like to be sure I didn't do something wrong in the installation...

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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Reply #22 - May 2^nd, 2005 at 4:13pm

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sorry...one more question...

Is it possible to do a full vertical takeoff in this (not a dealbreaker if no...)

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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Reply #23 - May 2^nd, 2005 at 7:12pm

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No you can't despite what people here have been saying, FS can't handle directional thrust. You can do a near vertical takeoff (moving at about 4 or 5 knots) but it is unstable and not really hovering.

It is still an awesome model though, I would highly recomend it.

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Reply #24 - May 3^rd, 2005 at 12:21am

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As would I (I have it! Grin

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My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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