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Sorry but that isnt the case. There are few pilots in Russia who can match up with the US, or British pilots.

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I certainly wouldnt trust alot of the planes they have. many accidents have been reported due to a lack of funding and supplies. I'd hate to think how many havent been reported.

The Russian military especially its airforce isnt the technological juggernaut it once was. They dont have the money or the supplys they once did. The biggest competitors today are mainly from western europe.

I'm sorry where are they? on paper. Still testing i have barely seen anything of these planes. The Russians are never one to back away from a good airshow showdown with their best. The SU47 is nothing more than a test aircraft. I would like a link to your Su52 as no searches i have done have turned up anything. And the Mig At is nothing but a trainer/light attack aircraft much like the Hawk.

The F-15 active was never planned as a military plane. It is/ was a test bed for designing new surfaces to help a plane recover from a catastrophic failure of the wings/rudders after the case of the F15 landing with one less wing. The pilots of the the F15 active saw its improved mobility and suggested it for Airforce service. It was not taken that seriously as the F-22 was well underway and thus dropped. The Russians have poured all their money into the military yes, however they dont even have the money to do that anymore. Thats why these new aircraft never make it past test stages or get cancelled. Hell yes the Beikrut was an out there design, it was also very manouverable, and had they taken it further then maybe it wouldn't be just another failure. The Russians have had many great ideas, and the fact the Mig 29 in its day was the most agile aircraft anyone had ever seen prooves that. But nothing from the past can even hope to compete against the new next gen fighters.

How can you not regard the F/A-22 as next gen?!?  It has the most advanced avionics in the world, it is the first stealthy fighter, and it is the first production fighter with thrust vectoring and supercruise.  If that's not next gen, I don't know what is.  When the F/A-22 and F-35 enter service, they will be replacing almost every other aircraft in service with the US today.  Those two are definately next-gen.

P.S. And yes, the F-15 [b]does[/b] have a perfect A2A combat record.

http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/f-15_eagle.pl

Look down under "F-15 Eagle Achievments"

Here she comes...
[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/f15argue.jpg[/img]

I certainly consider the F-22 next generation. Its the first true stealth fighter. Its supercruise is much better than even the Typhoon. It has agility much better tha everything except the Typhoon.
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Trust me that isnt the case. While the Eurofighter gets bad press, it wipes the floor with everything else out there right now. Very few people including the Test pilots know just what the Typhoon is capable of because it is still being restricted in terms of is manuverability to only 70% of its true capability hopefully within a year pilots will get to find out just how much better it can be. In mock combat the Typhoon has beaten everything it has come up against, including the upgraded migs and SU27/37's. It has an 8-1 kill ratio over the Rafale, and has not lost to the Grippen according to everything i have read. Its only a matter of time till a dogfight between the F-22 and the Typhoon is set up and then we shall see which is the better aircraft in a close combat situation. The Eurofighter can out-turn an F16 and is in general while a little let down by its lack of stealth capabilities, well worth the price tag and wait.

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the Eurofighter doesnt have thrust vectoring, it is being discussed for the Tranche 3 models.

Ja i know but im not fond of the euro****er

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True True..

Ive heard all the reports on the Euro,
and i cant say im realy impressed...
the only thing ive got to say is its got a good thrust to weight ratio...

But it will have some horible gremlins when its in service..

And i would take a Su-27 or 37 anyday over the typhoon...

But if they decide to get the optinal air con, and thrust vectoring... i'll be happy in my eyes, that its got a little bit of russia inside it

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Eurofighter is already in service