Simviation Forum - Jet flying tips?

Mar 9^th, 2005 at 7:48pm

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Could someone please provide some advice on flying jets, especially at high altitudes? I finally got the DPC Korea addon to work right, and am now stooging about the skies in an F-86. When trying to make sharp turns I often find the wing dropping and spinning out, especially at high altitudes. Anyone have any hints? At the moment I actually feel safer fighting Migs in an F-51. Embarrassed

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Reply #1 - Mar 10^th, 2005 at 1:16pm

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Keep your speed up. Play around in freeflight and learn what the planes capable of. I should think boom and zoom are your best tactics. Wink

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Reply #2 - Mar 11^th, 2005 at 2:00pm

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Fly in and out of the dogfight at highspeed firing into the fight

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Reply #3 - Mar 11^th, 2005 at 2:02pm

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AKA Boom and Zoom. Tongue

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Reply #4 - Mar 11^th, 2005 at 2:24pm

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yer...just transating

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Reply #5 - Mar 12^th, 2005 at 4:21am

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The Sabre isn't too good at high altitudes, and the MiG has the advantage. Drag the MiG down to where you have the advantage and blow him apart.

Of course if you were Flying FOX-FOUR's Korean War campaigns for CFS2, then you'd know this already 8)

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Reply #6 - Mar 12^th, 2005 at 9:18pm

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MiGs are capable of higher altitudes, but Sabers handle better at higher altitues and speeds...

As woody and the others suggested, 'Hit 'n Run' Grin

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Reply #7 - Mar 13^th, 2005 at 3:55am

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Sabres do not handle better than MiGs at very high altitudes, according to a formerly classified comparison document. (Which came bundled with MiG Alley)
Sabres are good, low and fast, whereas low and fast, the MiG tends to wingtip stall, and that's why a lot of nugget MiG pilots just ended up auguring in during low down high speed chases.
Don't take my word for it, read the documents.

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Reply #8 - Mar 14^th, 2005 at 12:00am

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Hmm...from what I have read, all the sources agree that Sabers handle better at higher altitues than MiGs... Roll Eyes

...but anyway...as long as you get that S.O.B., its all good Wink

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Reply #9 - Mar 14^th, 2005 at 4:25pm

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From "Central fighter Establishment - The F-86 v The MiG-15, by Squadron Leader W Harbison, Feb - May 1952.

MiG has varying degrees of advantage at higher altitudes in Rate of Climb, Level flight Speed, Turn radius, Zoom, Ceiling, Acceleration.
It is at disadvantage in Steep Dive, Deceleration.

The aircraft are equally matched in Shallow Dive, G limit, Mach limit.

At 0-20,000, The Sabre has a slight roll advantage.

These notes reference the F-86E.

I've just given you a short summary based on a comparison chart.

Maybe things were viewed differently as time passed.

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