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Mar 6^th, 2005 at 12:00pm

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If Hurricane and SPitfire production had been seriously hurt, this WAS being considered ... cheap to build

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Reply #1 - Mar 6^th, 2005 at 12:29pm

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Aha. I see someone's been busy. Cheesy

Nice one Felix. Wink

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Reply #2 - Mar 6^th, 2005 at 12:58pm

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More and More I'm getting convinced that Mr. Miles deserves more recognition than he's received so far.

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Reply #3 - Mar 6^th, 2005 at 1:58pm

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Looks good!! How long have you been working on that one?

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Reply #4 - Mar 6^th, 2005 at 2:23pm

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Looks good!! How long have you been working on that one?

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about four hours total ... I'm not going for 100% detail accuracy, but more for the "feel"

It's FSDS, of course, though some bits and pieces may get ported to gWax and back for, ahem, "detail work"

From a mesh modelling point of view, it's a bit "crude" (even by my relaxed standards)

From the two protoypes made, it appeared to be better than the Hurricane I, and quite comparable to the Spit I/II of the time. Armament was 8x.303, so conceivably it could have taken cannon armament as a development.

The FAA tested it, comparing it better than the Martlett.

Even today, it seems like a good design for a homebuilt..

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Reply #5 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 4:46pm

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Hey Felix,

Looks great... Is that a Miles M.20?

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Reply #6 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 5:04pm

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Hey Felix,

Looks great... Is that a Miles M.20?

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Specifically, I'm basing it on Prototype No.2, with the "revised" landing gear. Since I don't have much detailed information (yet), I'm taking certain liberties with the model. I added external exhaust pipes (look neat) before realizing that the photos really show a small exhaust at each side.

It's hard to imagine that this little job packed 8 (or 12) guns, and even with fixed gear, it had performance that put it right up there with the Hurricane.

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Reply #7 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 5:28pm

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It's hard to imagine that this little job packed 8 (or 12) guns, and even with fixed gear, it had performance that put it right up there with the Hurricane.

They should have given it retractable gear 8)

Not sure if you've seen this, but some info on the M.20 8)

http://www.aero51.plus.com/html/gallery/m20.htm

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Reply #8 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 6:08pm

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Would it surprise you to learn that the three view I'm using looks EXACTLY like the 3-view on that site? Wink

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Reply #9 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 6:13pm

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Here's a nice shot you won't find on the Web. Wink

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Reply #10 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 6:13pm

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Would it surprise you to learn that the three view I'm using looks EXACTLY like the 3-view on that site? Wink

Lmao... I kinda figures as much when I realised that there was nothing on Google Tongue

Are you going to add a VC?

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Reply #11 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 8:05pm

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Wow,

That's a very clean simple design. Personally I think looking at the 3-way views this would make an excellent first timer project. Does the tail wheel swivel or is it fixed?

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Reply #12 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 8:06pm

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Lmao... I kinda figures as much when I realised that there was nothing on Google Tongue

Are you going to add a VC?

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Most probably a rudimentary VC, nothing too fancy. I'm not much of a panel maker.

Just got my set of plans from Bob Banka on the M.20 ... suffice it to say it's an information overload - on both prototypes, and subtle variations on each...

I think the naval "version" (No.2) was the better looking of the two.

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Reply #13 - Mar 9^th, 2005 at 8:42pm

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Here's a nice shot you won't find on the Web. Wink

So where did you find it Grin

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I'm not much of a panel maker.

Have you been able to find any reference for the cockpit?

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Reply #14 - Mar 10^th, 2005 at 5:57am

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So where did you find it Grin

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In a book on Miles aircraft. http://www.miles-aircraft.com/Publications_miles_aircraft.html
I've been interested in Miles aircraft designs for as long as I can remember. The company has a long connection with my local airport at Shoreham although it was based at Woodley when the M.20 was built. I know a lot of people who worked for the company.

PS. A reunion for all ex- Miles & Beagle Aircraft employees is scheduled at Shoreham later this year. All being well I shall be there with my camera.

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