Simviation Forum - Airshows Rant

Reply #30 - Mar 11^th, 2005 at 2:36pm

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oh yeah, those Harriers are loud mothers. I'm so happy, i finally got to see one hover last summer for my first time. I was jumping up and down like a little school girl!! lol I was with my mom and was like, "Look ma, it's HOVERING!" lol

But, certainly not the loudest thing I've heard without ear protection. Is it a bad thing that jets in full afterburner no longer hurt my ears?

Even though it's pretty much at Idle... this passing 60 feet overhead 6 times is pretty loud too. (and warm!)
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And the Snowbirds at Abby, those guys ROCK!

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Reply #31 - Mar 11^th, 2005 at 3:16pm

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Now officially recognised by the Guinness Book of Records as the worlds largest military airshow...

I know, the 2003 show was recognised to be the largest military airshow in the world...and I was there. Eat this US of A!
With small local shows I didn't mean the Air Tattoo...it's not very local for me anyway! Wink

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Reply #32 - Mar 11^th, 2005 at 3:23pm

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I rember one year, the Harrier, flew non stop for 1 hour, during lunch, just about destryoed my ears

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Reply #33 - Mar 12^th, 2005 at 4:06am

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But, certainly not the loudest thing I've heard without ear protection. Is it a bad thing that jets in full afterburner no longer hurt my ears?

My point about the Harrier is that hovers & moves slowly at full throttle. This leads to a constant blast of sound which is definitely not good for the ears, especially with small children. Fortunately parents are becoming more sensible & most protect their children's ears at displays nowadays.

That's a nice shot. I'm not sure about your ears. Maybe you're just getting used to it.

The loudest noise I've ever heard was at a Farnborough Air Show many years ago or before the air show to be correct. While walking fom the bus to the display area we passed an EE Lightning chained down to a concrete test pad. They started the engines & ran them flat out on full AB. That was bad enough until they lit the Spectre rocket motor mounted between the jet exhausts. This ran for several minutes & the noise was incredible. I was surprised the whole thing didn't take off, concrete pad & all. It was bliss when they finally shut it down. I don't think my ears ever recovered from that.

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Reply #34 - Mar 12^th, 2005 at 4:39am

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Last year, we stood next to a taxiway while a F-16 came by. He was just taxiing lets say 4 meters away from me. You'd say: "he was only taxiing, that can't make any noise"...but au contraire mon frère, this made a hell of a noise. You can't compare it to the sound of an afterburner, but it was very sharp that it went straight through your body. I only made one quick photo and covered my ears because it was too painfull.

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Reply #35 - Mar 12^th, 2005 at 8:40pm

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Hmmm Can't say I've ever come to close to a military jet... Roll Eyes

Only the harrier at Airventure, which I didn't think was all that loud. Well, I go to concerts all the time, so I'm used to loud noise... Roll Eyes

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Reply #36 - Mar 12^th, 2005 at 9:08pm

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Those Harriers can get loud of they are near you and decide to fly out of a hover. But at idle on the ground, they are very quiet for military aircraft.

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Reply #37 - Mar 14^th, 2005 at 2:51pm

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I rember being bout, oh 15m from the runway, and the F4 sat there, nice and quiet, I thought,this should't be to bad Undecided

well

it fired up them afterburners the ground shoke, and car alarms went off Grin

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Reply #38 - Mar 14^th, 2005 at 3:24pm

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4 harriers all hovering in front of you. Now that is loud, i am sure Doug remembers the display from Yeovil last year that too was pretty impressive. Gotta admit the Vulcan had a ring to it that couldn't be beaten

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Reply #39 - Mar 14^th, 2005 at 6:37pm

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Hey Budd, when I was an AF instructor, I would occasionally light up the plane near cars on purpose, quite amusing to watch the alarms go off (and back then, it was VERY easy to set off the alarms).

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Reply #40 - Mar 14^th, 2005 at 6:57pm

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4 harriers all hovering in front of you. Now that is loud, i am sure Doug remembers the display from Yeovil last year that too was pretty impressive. Gotta admit the Vulcan had a ring to it that couldn't be beaten

There are louder aircraft but the Harrier is one of the worst (or best) for concentrated sound for a prolonged period. The RAF Harrier hovers & moves slowly backwards & forwards in front of the crowd for several minutes at the end of his display. This is done at full power throughout & could very easily damage a young child's ears permanently. Some friends of mine with a young baby left last year's Shoreham show before the Harrier display for this reason.

The Vulcan was very impressive. His party trick was to do a low pass over the airfield, then lift the nose into a steep climb on full afterburner with the jet exhausts aimed directly at the crowd. This made the ground shake & the sound went right through you. We used to call it being Vulcanned. Wink

I've seen all sorts over the years, even 3 Vulcans in formation at Farnborough, but this was probably the most memorable.

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Reply #41 - Mar 15^th, 2005 at 12:50am

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Another thing that's hecka loud is Carrier ops. Try standing 80 feet from an F/A-18 at full afterburner on a cat, ready to go. After seeing the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds, Super Hornet, Tomcat, F-15, B-1 takeoffs... nothing beat the noise on that carrier. And feeling that thump in the deck as the shuttle hits the waterbreak, and that jet going by, as the next one revs up on cat 4 ready to launch. Prowlers are prtty loud to for not having afterburners. Hoovers just whine. lol But they sound cool as the engines spin up to full power.

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Reply #42 - Mar 15^th, 2005 at 3:03pm

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If there's something that doesn't have afterburners but makes a hell of a noise, it must be a good old B-52 during take off! Saw it last year and oh my god that was loud. Wink

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Reply #43 - Mar 15^th, 2005 at 7:34pm

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Yup those B-52s can be looouuuuuddd! Hagar, they do that same flight routine with the Harriers in the US I have seen. The demo team ALWAYS ends up hovering, then flying backwards and forwards slowly (weird seeing a plane back up), and spinning in circles. Walk away at the end of that one and you won't hear the guy announce the next event!

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