Anybody own the game yet? i do and it is BAD-ACE if you own it what do you think of it? i dont like the way its layed out in the simulation mode where you buy your cars, enter races etc. but gameplay and graphics are freakin awesome. and it even lets you import your A and B licence and 100,000 dollars from GT3 A-Spec (but its only a one time thing)

 Alright, here's my opinion, (and it's not a very popular one, but I speak the truth) GT4 is pretty and there are more cars and tracks but I am really not that impressed, I feel like I have started GT3 over again, I have also read reviews in a couple of different magazines that share the same analysis, so I am not alone.
 I remember when GT3 came out it was a major leap from GT2 (yes I realize you must factor in the capabilities of the PS1 vs. PS2) but the game was such a step forward, I'm not feeling that this time.

 There is nothing groundbreaking or inovative about this new version, as a matter of fact to the disdain of my co-workers/fellow gamers, I have taken to calling GT4 GT3.1, all it really is is an upgraded version of GT3.

 Now don't get me wrong, I am still going to be playing it, I just guess that after a 4 year frickin' wait I expected a little bit more, no online play, still no damage or ill-effects if you run into a wall or the other drivers (in fact you have to muscle your way into the lead a lot of times if you want a win), no penalties for cutting corners or shooting straight through a chicane (a great way to gain positions), I certainly was not "Blown away" like some of the other guys I know who claim they just couldn't stop playing it, personally I didn't have a problem shutting it off because as I said, I feel a bit like "here we go again" and I'm not all that enthused about working my way back through all those races with crappy cars to get to the good cars so some "real" racing can take place.
 Oh yeah, and while on the subject of the cars, I have been thinking of the 700 cars that are supposed to be in the game and realize that I will probably only actually use about 10 or 15 of them to progress through the game.

 It's a good game, it might be a little prettier than the last one, maybe there is more to do...but still, after all the time that has passed and all the delayed release dates, I guess I feel a little disappointed, but that's just my opinion.

Man, In 5 years I wont have time for GT5.  I don't know what to think

Prologue, was a almost like a demo of it, released a few months before the main version. It had a load of cars couple of tracks to give people an idea of what to expect.

Here in Europe to. I dont buy them, as its a scam really. Its not final quality and they charge full game price.

o yeah i almost forgot, if you guys wanna see some really sad stuff go here

www.wreckedexotics.com

under some of the pictures they have an explination of how the wrecked happened and some people are just stupid.

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  I can certainly see what an improvement it must be for you, GT2 was possibly my favorite of the series as far as the actual racing goes.

Is this the one that happens when cars pass at certain points?

yeah Paz, that screen glitch is annoying as all hell, but i havent came across the other 2 if you happen to let me know what it is so i will no what to look for.

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  Hopefully you will enjoy it, I can only handle playing it for a short time before I feel the urge to destroy things.

Well got it today. Played a little bit, mainly just to test the Nurburgring. Graphics are definatly better, however i hate the new layout in the main mode. I thought you could transfer licenses aswell, but i guess only money. I havent seen that glitch you mentioned. Maybe just havent noticed. The driving physics are not that good though.

Edit: Now i have had time to really play this game i must say i am impressed. While it isnt anything huge ahead of GT3 i must say it has minor improvements that make all the differance. First and probably the most important is the graphics. They really are stunning on some tracks, i love the hong kong track where you come round the blind corner into that street with all the neon signs. Secondly and again rather importantly. The sensation of speed, for the first time in the series you actually feel like your doing the speed it says. I even flinched going through the narrow streets of the italian course. Was it worth the 3 and a half year wait? No i dont think theres any excuse for how long it took. But is it worth the money? Yes.

Must have been fixed. As goes the speeding up of trailing cars. Then again i did transfer the 100,000 credits from GT3 and bought a Camaro and seriously upgraded it. Although in a stock Dodge str or whatever it is called, race round the nurburgring i did get killed. I have noticed at least in my copy if you hit the cars on the side hard enough they slow down quite a bit giving you time to pull away. I dont like the motion blur when you hit a wall though.

what do you mean your ps2 is too old for it?

I retract my statement. Apparently alot of people with the older spec PS2's are not able to run it. It has something to do with the game being dual layered.

On a side note after a good few frustrating hours i finally got all the licenses. The only test i was worryed about was the final one for the special license around the nurburgring took me 1 attempt. yet the test round the chamonix is that the name of the course? i just couldnt do, took me ages, then i realised i was going much faster than i needed to be, so after going round alot slower its now out the way. I dont like that you cant touch the endurance races till 25% completion. Hell completed a ton of the races and not even at 10%.

oh yeah soes any one have a slimline ps2

unluky
i hear the slimline has an intergrated modem port for online gameing

all i need is another dsl cable and i am away!

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no. it's exactly like playing offline. only problem is that some of the game company's servers suck (*cough* EA *cough*) and you get kicked off occasionaly. still great fun tho. i used to play burnout3 quite alot online and beat whoever got in my way . seriously, alot of the people online can't play the game for sh*t

i went out yesterday and bought a new slimline ps2 and a copy of gt4. my old ps2 died a while ago.....the new ones are sooooo small, almost doesent actually look worth £100...until you turn it on! i havent had much chance to play gt4 yet, but so far im likin it! 

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how much better are the slimlines? better graphics? faster load time?

Not quite sure. But my guess would be something the guys in marketing came up with.
Might have one or two new features, but mostly like the same PS2.
Electronics just aren't cool unless they're small.

Meh, I won't be getting one.
And the PS2 HDD apparently can't connect to them.

My old PS2 just died and I had to get a new slimline.  Overall, it's pretty nice.  The starting load-up screen is a bit faster than the old ones.  Also, it is really nice to have a network adapter built right into the playstation itself.  You won't have to worry about the PS2 HDD anymore either unless you play FFXI because no future games will be using it.  It's small size makes it easier to put places too.  I don't really see any downsides to getting it over a big one if you plan on buying a new PS2, but if you already have a PS2 and want to upgrade, I wouldn't recommend doing so, no point.  Also, PS2 online is free for pretty much every game (except FFXI).

Am I being thick here?

Is it just me or is somthing wrong in the license tests?

On some you are supposed to follow the pace car and try and do the track within the set times.  If you follow the pace car and keep up his rear to the end you will get bronze, if you want silver or gold your in trouble.  Everytime I pass the pace car I get a fail yet he does not drive fast enough for you to get silver or gold .

An example being the AI Test 15. Nurenburgh ring (Spelt wrong I think).  Test is 10mins for bronze yet having to break to avoid hitting pace car (Which would fail me) means that I cross the finish line 10mins and 16sec (A fail) yet I'm a cars length behind pace car!!

Is there some setting I should have done first?

Apart from that, excellent graphics fast game play but yes, no crash detection and AI is .....ok but could be a lot better, I just love the graphics.

John

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i have only done this on gt3 but if you just go around the course as fast as you can that ussaly gets gold stuff the pace car

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Cant do that. Pass or hit the pace car you fail. It doesnt matter anyway as the pace car can do the gold time, its speed is determined by the speed your doing.

useful for those who are new to racing games i guess. It helps with knowing the correct racing lines of a course.

Well. . . . .

Photo mode is fun, for a short period of time
The new layout is. . . . .well. . . . .
The licences aren't exactly easy, but a few could be harder (and some easier)
The selection of cars is awesome, especially the amount of 'Historic' cars
The addition of 'Tuner Village' is a nice idea
The number of tracks is a lot better

Overall, it was definately worth my 99p 8)

Cheers,

Carl. . . . .Rolling around in a Nike 2022. . . . . 8)

Richie are you being hit by anything or going over rumble strips? That causes the screen shake now. I dont know if it is something else as i dont use chase view.

Some of you may have found this already, but there's a simple way to get some serious money really quick.

Buy a used (preferably Japanese) car, I got a '97 Supra RZ for 35k, tune it up as much as you can afford and reduce weight.

Then go to "Special Conditions" (bottom left of world map) and enter the "Rally Costa Di Amalfi" (Capri rally), you DON'T need dirt tires to enter.

Win both races (nice and easy, just watch for twists and jumps in the track) and you should receive the "Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car".

Sell the car for 265k, then return to "Special Conditions" and repeat the same race again (Choose clear when it asks you if you want to clear previous results, otherwise you won't be able to win another car).

4 of these and you have a million, nice and easy 8), you also get 5k for every win 8).

Follow these steps and you'll be kicking a$$ in no time . . . . .

Happy racing,

Carl. . . . .Cruising in a silver Viper 8)

Aaaah yes,
the Ram 1500 Hemi, gimme two of those ANY DAY 8)
Wonder how Torquay would cope. . . . . ???. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

I'm sure I'll enjoy "photo" mode a lot more once I get hold of some USB Flash Memory

Cheers,

Carl

Sounds like my kinda truck

15 to a gallon isn't too bad considering the top-end version has a 5.7 HEMI V8 in it, packing 345horses

Compare that to the Hummer H2 which has a 6.0 V8 packing 316horses and apparently less to a gallon and I'd say it would be well worth it 8)

Just having the money to buy one will be a big problem for me, for a while at least , oh and I can't drive either

Cheers,

Carl

Very true, but now you mention the Ford "F" series. . . . .
F-350 Lariat
A top-end one of those would do me nicely (minus the price tag of course )

And yes, moving to America (or Canada) will be one of my major objectives (before I'm 30 )

Cheers,

Carl

my advice is to buy the corvette race car i did so without the easy route and its worth it. I dont think it can be beaten in most of the races. give the final engine upgrade to make it truely unbeatable. Cant be used everywhere but enough to make money for other cars where needed. Also buy cars on the bases they can be used elsewhere. For instance the RUF3000 with a bunch of upgrades can be used in a number of specialty races.

Yeah they had it in 3 too. However i have noticed it doesnt work on all of the cars. I have also found a rather though series to pass is the supercar one in professional races. Even with the Corvette racing car.
Oh and those who have won that 1886 mercedes carrage dont try it on the 1/4 test. It takes 1:23 top speed 11mph

LOL. Funny enough driving back from bristol yesterday we passed a brand new Mclaren Mercedes SLR on the motorway. Yes WE passed IT It is a beautiful car, god only knows why it was barely do 50 on a quiet motorway.

LOL yes the police cant afford more officers, now we know why, they had to pay for £500,000 cars wont be out running those, well unless your in an enzo, xj220 or mclaren f1 roadster. But how likely is that

I am now attempting the ultimate. Trying to get the F1 car through means of the 24 hours at nurburgring. Just using the B spec and sped up time, but has to be watched as the pit stops are only partially automatic.

Wow, you actually did that 24hr Nuremburg race-congrats dude.  What car did you use and how much horsepower did it have?

Also, when doing it in B-spec-how does the pit stops happen-by that I mean do you have to tell the car when to pit or does it automatically?

OMG! - is 9hrs with it set to max speed?

I'm giving this a try as well and I'm basically running it on B-spec.  I did the first couple laps or so manually and now its all B-spec from here (at 3x speed).  It has been running for about 5 hours now and I am 12 hours in (its 11pm).  I think I'm going to keep it at 3x B-spec and leave it running all night.  I know that it will return to 1x when it pits so once I got to bed it will return to 1x, but I figure by morning it will be almost done.  I really hope this F1 car is as good as it is supposed to be.

Well, I have completed it now too.  I did it in the 1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK Racing Car which was fully built and has about 1030hp.  I completed 212 labs in 24 hours and finished about 10 labs a head of 2nd place.  For those of you who are also going to try this, I used a combonation of hard and super hard racing slicks on the car, the hard were in front and the super hard in the rear.  I found that this lasted 4 laps and I had 16/80 fuel remaining at each tire change.  This tire combonation caused the tires to wear evenly.  For this of you who are interested, this race was 2743 miles in my case.

Just a little more interesting information, I discovered how far you can go on one take of gas.  As I have said, I allowed most of the race to happen as a B-spec race and at one point I accidently bumped the control and messed up the game, it skipped a pit stop.  It attempted to pit on the 5th lap on the current set of tires but the pace I had set (4-fast) caused it to slide past the pit stop.  So, on lap 136-my car ran out of gas.  I had completed 5.5 laps on that tank. 

Just in case your wondering (I was very concerned during this)-if you run out of fuel you are not out of the race.  Once the tank is empty the car is very limited to speed (kind of like during a special condition race when you have a 5-second penaltity).  When you run out of gas you are limited to 50mph.  Once you pit and fill up the tank-you can resume normal racing speed.  I ran out of gas on the opposite side of the course and as a result drove about 6 miles at 50mph.  But, I was far enough a head at that point and I didn't lose my lead (I was up by like 6 laps on second place when it happened). 

As for my B-spec settings, I left the game pace at 4 (fast) the whole time.  It seemed to work just fine (except for when I bumped something and messed up the pit stop).  An average lap took me 6:30.00 to complete.

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Oh, I don't even want to think about that.   

Yippee, 24% through the game, I was just looking forward to winning another championship to get 25% and do some of the Endurance stuff...

Start up the PS2...

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No thanks, I'd like my game data back...

Ho hum, never mind...