Beautiful photo of a rare bird there Bazza, is she still using the Packard Merlin?

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We want to see real fighters, like the Hurricane, not glamour girls!

Nothing wrong with the Hurricane. Last in a long line of thoroughbreds.

Remember the sucessor to the Spitfire was the Attacker. 'Nuff said.

<G>  Did the Spiteful ever make it to "real" service?  The Attacker did.

Basically, the Attacker was a Spiteful/late Spitfire with a turbine engine in a new fuselage... definitely Supermarine's last gasp.

If I were to be asked for the most productive UK aircraft designer/manufacturer, I'd have to say that Hawkers would be, if not in first place, right up there.

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sorry, I was being a pedantic g*t...

Now lets consider Hawker, with a rough history...

Hawker...

Tomtit, Fury (etc), Hart/Hind (etc), Hurricane, Typhoon, Tempest, (Sea) Fury, Hunter, Harrier, Hawk, and that's just missing most of them out.

I always have thought the Henley looked quit nice too...

Charlie
Ground Looper Extraordinaire
(Just don't ask what in (Doug may be able to Harzard a guess ...)

Oh, and I didn't break it

The Har-zard was the big clue...

...and it was in full view of ATC, Ops, the lot!

Thankfully it was doing only about 10 knots...

Charlie

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Haaa. I suspected as much, You lucky booger...........!

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I think this is what he's confessing to Felix. I would have kept quiet about that myself.

I trust that poor aeroplane is OK although I'm sure it's seen worse in its time. I suspect the poor old mechanics weren't too delighted. Just remember whose aeroplane it is. You're only allowed to borrow it & you're expected to look after it.

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I'm inclined to agree. I always liked the Mk IX/XVI though. In the end, I recall what John Romain told me last year when I asked which Mark was his favourite. He replied, with a grin on his face & that special gleam in his eye: "They're all beautiful."

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You forgot the Tornado. One of Camms less successful designs.

However, consider now that Hawker was the child of Sopwith and voila! You have yet another string of the finest fighters around!

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It was obviously to Sopwith what the Tornado was to Hawker then.

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It was close to inclusion but...
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I couldn't be bothered to do all of them...

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I'm glad I'm a computer pilot and not a real life one.  Many a time I've "landed" a perfectly functional Spit just to be a tad heavy on the brakes and tip over, or over-correct and do a beautiful ground loop, breaking bits and pieces all over (it's disgusting what some programs will make you sit through!)

And maybe someday I'll learn how smileys work!

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To add to Felix's comments. I was trying to point out the lineage of the Hawker aircraft. The Spitfire was a brand new design with no direct predecessor. The Hurricane was the final development of a successful line of military biplanes. The traditional fabric-covered steel tube  construction meant it couldn't be developed further. The line started again with the Typhoon which was developed via the Tempest into the Sea Fury, one of the fastest piston-engined fighters ever to see service. The family resemblance is plain to see as with all Sidney Camm's designs. I don't think the Scimitar was a development of a previous design. It was not particularly successful. Unfortunately Supermarine never quite made it into the jet age.

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Ah, but did either see service? That is the point. Both the Spiteful & Seafang were actually developments of the Spitfire with a new laminar-flow wing. The Seafang was the naval version of the Spiteful, the same relationship as between the Spitfire & Seafire. If you wish to be pedantic I'm your man. I have years more experience.

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No doubt as they already incorporated the wing-fold mechanism. Pity they didn't think to move that tailwheel in the first place. It would almost certainly have been an improvement (let's face it you could hardly think of a worse idea than a tailwheel on a jet aircraft) & saved a lot of melted tarmac. Goodness knows what damage that blowlamp did to carrier decks. I doubt it would pass health & safety regulations these days.

Sorry but I always thought that Attacker was an 'orrible aeroplane. Not a fit successor to the beautiful, graceful Spitfire. Now, the Hawker Sea Hawk - that's a different story.

Sorry Bazza. All in fun I assure you. You're not the only one around here I seem to have offended with my comments recently so I'd better keep quiet in future. Please carry on posting your interesting shots.

I should have put LOL after my post - don't get me wrong, I enjoy the cut and thrust, plus all the knowledge that comes forward as much as anyone - having been here since Fs98 I've yet to be offended..............LOL LOL LOL

Hagar, me old mate, us older guys have to stick together, after all ,all this knowledge comes at a cost.........