Simviation Forum - all this talk about ATC ease dropping...

Jan 28^th, 2005 at 6:31pm

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was jus wondering if there are any links for military bases and such to be able to listen to other stuff then commercial air traffic?

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Reply #1 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 6:38pm

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Now that is illegal Wink

Or on paper it is, you can buy scanners to pick up the freqs but i would imagine broadcasting on the net would land some nice men from the CIA or FBI on your door step

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Reply #2 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 6:39pm

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lmao well then nevermind!!!! lol *runs and hides*

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Reply #3 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 6:40pm

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I might be wrong but i am almost certain its not really allowed. Who knows if there is a link i would love to see it.

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Reply #4 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 6:53pm

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yeah it would be preety cool

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Reply #5 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 6:55pm

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At least in Sweden the military has their own ATC which offers MUCH more assistance..heck they tell you everything. No flightplan is really necessary Grin

And I suppose it's illegal to be eardropping on them

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Reply #6 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 7:40pm

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dont ask that question...al never stop askin it my self.......me n my chums are addicted!, as im sure craig will know!

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if i was you, i would NOT listen at all, as im ver very much sure it is illegal!, but its entirely up 2 u wat u do!

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Reply #7 - Jan 28^th, 2005 at 8:17pm

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I think it should be quite obvious that listening in to military communications of any sort (even the police) is not encouraged & probably illegal in every country in the world. Quite how they could stop anyone doing it is a different matter but I'm sure it would not be easy to find on the Internet.

Civil ATC is quite a different thing. I'll take Ivan's word for it that it's technically illegal in Belgium. There seem to be a lot of strange laws in Europe as those of us in the UK have found out over the last few years. Roll Eyes

I just typed < live atc > in Google & look at this lot. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=live+atc&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Now. If it was illegal would you expect all those sites to be quite openly advertising themselves? I don't think so.

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Reply #8 - Jan 29^th, 2005 at 10:50am

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dont ask that question...al never stop askin it my self.......me n my chums are addicted!, as im sure craig will know!

lol

if i was you, i would NOT listen at all, as im ver very much sure it is illegal!, but its entirely up 2 u wat u do!

Jimbo, you'll get an ulcer worrying about this while at the same time listening because you enjoy it so much. Contact the proper authorities (anonomously, if you like), and ask them. Or if you can speak to a controller (call a control tower or control center, contact their union, whatever), I'm sure they'll give you the low-down. Tell them that you'd just like to listen (and learn). Law or no law, there's no harm in listening, when you think about it.
Monitoring law-enforcement bands could certainly be useful for criminals, but unless you're transmitting, you're not going to interfere with ATC operations by listening . Military bands? Might be a different story, but knowing how many receivers there are out there, I'd imagine the military would rely on code names, etc. to conceal details of operations, and if I'm not mistaken, most scanners don't pick up on the bands the military uses.
I've heard of cases where people have caused problems by talking on ATC channels (could be dangerous!), but never heard of anybody getting in trouble for listening. I've been doing it for years, and so far no knock on the door in the middle of the night...
Anyway, don't look for the answer here. Ask the authorities, or the controllers themselves.

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Reply #9 - Jan 29^th, 2005 at 2:43pm

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Here in the UK you used to be able to Listen to the Police, Fire brigade, Ambulance service, Shipping and ATC channels on a normal home radio set. I know that when they opened up the airwaves for more commecial use these wavelengths were taken off domestic sets. Now with digital communications the police and military use encrypted channels. You can however buy Airband radios to listen to ATC. There's nothing illeagal about listening ....... just don't transmit.

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Reply #10 - Jan 29^th, 2005 at 3:43pm

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liveatc.net actually has a link to listen to Willow Grove NAS tower (the guys that always yell at me for busting their airspace Roll Eyes

), but it was down.

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Reply #11 - Jan 29^th, 2005 at 4:35pm

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well i did find these unfprtantly no web linked ones but if u have a scanner ur set.. also some pre recorded ones but i do not have the patients to d/l the files at 4k/s lol anyway here u go

http://www.milaircomms.com/index.html
http://www.canairradio.com/

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Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2005 at 4:54pm

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In the UK I don't think they really mind you listening to the radio traffic at most military (aviation) bases, infact they let publishers such as Airlife freely publish the frequencys in so called "spotters handbooks". It ties in well with all the viewing enclosures that are appearing at bases such as Waddington and Coningsby...

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Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2005 at 5:07pm

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lmao ok i jus listen to the tbirds waiting for clearance lol and all they did was act funny one guy said "ive been stared down by a turtle before...and i was intimated" lmao

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