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Jan 12th, 2005 at 11:28pm

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I'm reading quite a hefty volume on Barbarossa, and it mentions, but does not elaborate, on a source the Soviets relied on named only as Lucy.  Information given by this source was detailed and accurate, but the book does not go much further than to establish the fact Lucy stayed anonymous.  Has anyone heard more of this?
 

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Reply #1 - Jan 13th, 2005 at 5:12am

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Hi Scorp. I had a search round & discovered that LUCY was an intelligence network, not a person.

http://books.stonebooks.com/cgi-bin/foxweb.exe/base/subjects?1000745
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Lucy spy ring
Spy network run by Rudolf Rossler in Switzerland and relaying German secrets to Moscow


There's plenty more if you spend a few minutes on a search engine.
http://intellit.muskingum.edu/russia_folder/russiawwii_folder/russiawwiispiesr-z...
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RUSSIA
World War II
The Soviet Spy Rings in Europe:
The Rote Kapelle, the Lucy Ring, & the Rote Drei
 

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Reply #2 - Jan 16th, 2005 at 3:43am

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Thanks Hagar. Smiley

Unfortunately, I found the topic interesting based on the fact that Lucy was an individual.  The fact that it was a group or a ring kind of takes away it's peculiarality, and thus, my interest in it.  Oh well.
 

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Reply #3 - Jan 16th, 2005 at 3:49am

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Ah well. The network was run by a man named Rudolf Rossler. Maybe you would find him interesting. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0304351296/102-2886340-3972958?v=g...
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LUCY was Rudolf Rossler, a German refugee publisher living in Lucerne
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 27th, 2005 at 3:43am
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What an a$$! Why would you betray your own country in such a scurrolous manner??
Shameful behaviour, Rudolf....


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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2005 at 4:26am

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What an a$$! Why would you betray your own country in such a scurrolous manner??
Shameful behaviour, Rudolf....

The majority of people suffering under the Nazi regime were loyal German citizens. They were not betraying their country but quite naturally opposed to the regime.
 

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Reply #6 - Jan 28th, 2005 at 5:32pm

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The majority of people suffering under the Nazi regime were loyal German citizens. They were not betraying their country but quite naturally opposed to the regime.


Word up, Hagar. "My country, right or wrong" is right down there with "All's fair in love and war". Lies!  But I wonder what Rossler thought about Stalin....
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 29th, 2005 at 5:29am
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OK OK OK OK
Calm down, I'm just not into the Quisling thing....
But Hitler for Stalin???
People walked by Stalin's body to check he was dead!
(Hey, I'm not saying Hitler was good, he was evil and sick, but its a strange swap)

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Reply #8 - Jan 29th, 2005 at 6:11am

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Hitler for Stalin???
People walked by Stalin's body to check he was dead!
(Hey, I'm not saying Hitler was good, he was evil and sick, but its a strange swap)

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Did you ever hear the expression "strange bedfellows"? Stalin became an ally of Britain & the US. Both Churchill & Roosevelt had to treat him as a friend. They might not have liked it personally or approved of Stalin or his regime but it was a matter of expediency. The Allies needed him. That's simple politics it's no different today. I wonder if you would see this differently if "Lucy" had worked for British or US intelligence. The victors write the history books. He would be probably be hailed as a hero. It's quite possible that anything concerning the Western front was passed to them anyway.

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Word up, Hagar. "My country, right or wrong" is right down there with "All's fair in love and war". Lies!  But I wonder what Rossler thought about Stalin....

I didn't look into it any further. I have no idea of his background so don't know if Rossler was Jewish or had communist leanings. If he was Jewish I would hardly call him a traitor. German Jews fought for their country during WWI. Many resistance workers in occupied countries during WWII were communists. I doubt they considered themselves traitors either.
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