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Jan 5th, 2005 at 4:56pm

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Hi yaw Grin

I put a panel to gether for a Cessna 170. uesing  a picture of a rael Cessna 170, that I got from a Cessna wedsite.  I'v got the panel all to gether now, so what I would like to do is add the yoke that I removed from the orginal picture back as a  sepret window. 8)


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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 11:53am

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There are at least two programs that will do this for you
Though one is really a upgrade of the other.
1). CFGEDIT is freeware and will do this as long as you have no XML gauges in the panel. It will not support that
2).FSPANEL STUDIO is a upgrade of cfgedit but is pay ware. It will edit and make XML gauges it sells for around $20.00. I use it all the time to check panels with as it will spot a lot of problems in the panel.cfg file that might be missed.
DO not expect it to make a virtual cockpit with as that has to be done at the time of the planes design.
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 1:51pm

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I have cfgedit, and I have notice that on some panels that some of the gauges will be highlighted in purple.
So if I wanted to add the yoke as a sepret window, so that when I push say ie.. shift+ 2 the yoke will show up,
I would need to pugrade to FSpanel Studio ?

The aircraft that I have bee working on is a 1948 Cessna 170A  by  Paul Clawson. It's a good looking airplane, but the panel, and vc needs work. So I'v been able to do something about the panel, and even some on th vc's panel. The VC has know color I wish that I could get in to the vc, and edit it. Grin
 
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 2:17pm

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You should not need to upgrade to FSPanel Studio to add a new window.  You can do it with notepad if you have enough patience.

The way I learned to do it was to reverse engineer some panels.  Examine the code with CfgEdit.

John Consterdine's Baron panel http://www.simviation.com/fs2002panels22.htm has a nice little popup yoke.  If you examine how he did it you should be able to figure it out - maybe even add his nifty little yoke icon.
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 6:11pm

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Thanks Webb for that I'll take a look at it, and see how it's don. Grin
One more thing if I may. When editing my panels, it seems that some things in the panel that are black the simulator reads as seeing thought it,and other like the dash on the panel is ok meening I cant see thought it. So if I want to color something in black how do I do that with out the simulator reading it as see though it?
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 7:38pm

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Yes, the sim interprets black as transparent.   I'm not big into bitmap  editors but  I suspect the black layer is something like 0,0,0.

To make it non-transparent you have to make the non-black background as close to black as you can  - depending on the  capabilities of your .bmp editor.  I use MS Paint - probably not the best one out there - to change the desired backgrounds to the darkest gray I can get.
 
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Reply #6 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 10:30pm

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Ya that make sence I'm startting to figer it out. I did look at that Baron panel, and I was able to add the Cessna yoke as a window "success at last". Grin Have you tryed uesing Pixia? It's freeware you can download it here http://www.webattack.com/get/pixia.html

Thanks agen
 
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Reply #7 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 10:51pm

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For extra credit figure out the yoke icon.

I tried Pixia but it was overkill.  Gimp is probably overkill, too.  MSPaint and Irfanview work fine for my very limited editing work.
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 7th, 2005 at 6:11am

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Ya I'v been thanking about the yoke icon. Would that be like a gauge?
 
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Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2005 at 11:08am

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In the panel you downloaded and reverse engineered the icon is in JCYoke and the panel.cfg entry looks something like this:

gauge45=JCYoke!yoke,  932,97,26,26

and the yoke window is here:

[Window03]
file=58Yoke.bmp
file_1024=Yoke.bmp
size_mm=480
window_size_ratio=1.000 
position=0
visible=1
ident=31
window_size= 0.375, 0.375
window_pos= 0.160, 0.734

gauge00=YokeATC!Switch,  66,14,30,16
gauge01=Beech_Baron!Clock,  206,145,70,40
gauge02=YokeAP!Switch,  386,14,30,16
gauge03=APlight!light,  368,14,7,8

CfgEdit should be able to find a few more icons in simicons.cab and simicons1024.cab.  You can download a lot more icons in a package called cpt.icons.cab either here or from AVSim.

The tricky part is that the each icon is tied to an ident=x value.  I think there are some old discussions in the panel forum about that but it can be difficult to get these entries to match.
 
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Reply #10 - Jan 7th, 2005 at 10:25pm

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The icon my be a bit over my head.
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 8th, 2005 at 10:44am

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Some F1 ATR72-500 captains (AMEs, actually) have added the default GPS500 to the 2D panel as this plane comes with the HT1000 (no map display) . . . just edit the panel.cfg in notepad.

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Reply #12 - Jan 8th, 2005 at 6:05pm

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I didn't get the yoke icon done, but I am going to work on figuring out how to make a yoke icon for the next panel project.  Do I just make the Icon say in MS paint, or pixia, and the assign as a  gauges ?

I finished a Cessna 172 panel for the def Cessna 172 Skyhawk, and up loaded it on Simvation.
It's nothing for me to brag about, but as I learn more maybe my panels will get better.
If one of the veteran panel designer would check it out, and maybe give me some pointers?


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Reply #13 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 8:23am

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CfgEdit should be able to find a few more icons in simicons.cab and simicons1024.cab.  You can download a lot more icons in a package called cpt.icons.cab either here or from AVSim.

CfgEdit cannot read XML gauges. This is the only reason it's not fully-compatible with FS2002/4. You would either need its big payware brother FS Panel Studio or add XML gauges by manually editing Panel.cfg in Notepad. You can use conventional gauges to position them in CfgEdit then swap the appropriate gauge names.
 

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Reply #14 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 10:18am

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If you want to zip up your package and email it to me I'll be glad to add the yoke icon and connect it to the window.  Since I can't find another yoke icon I would just use JCYoke, which was probably custom made by John Consterdine.

Just make sure you give the late Mr. Consterdine credit.

Is the panel for FS02 or FS04?
 
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Reply #15 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 12:58pm

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Webb I'm sending the panel to you now.


Thank you for your in put, and help.
 
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Reply #16 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 2:46pm

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Hy thaks  webb Grin I got it worked out, with you help, and all fo the cool folks here on Simv. Grin
 
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Reply #17 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 2:59pm

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The preview looked pretty nice.  Let us know when you upload it.
 
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Reply #18 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 6:46pm

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Ya Webb I uploaded the panel Saterdat, and Simv has it up alredy. I uploaed the updaty for the yoke icon to day.  Thank agen for you help. Grin
 
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Reply #19 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 1:15pm

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I use FSPANEL STUDIO because it like cfgedit will spot problems in a panel like a missing gauge or misnumbered gauges or windows. They will renumber the gauges and windows. But if you have left out a gauge in a plane it can cause FS to crash when you try to display that panel. CFGEDIT and FSPANELSTUDIO will warn you that there is a missing gauge or a missing BMP file for a window. For me it just makes things easier I am a firm beleiver in the K.I.S.S method (keep it simple stupid) why complecate it if you do not need to.
But like I said cfedit and fspanelstudio were just two ways of making a new panel or window, not the only way. 8)
 
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Reply #20 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 3:43pm

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I like using CfgEdit to. I have the freeware CfgEdit, but it can be a life saver. I needed a panel for a 737-200 last night all I could find is a Bombardier CRJ Panel, that would work. I as abel to edit that panel replaces the  Bombardier gauges with the 737 gauges easily with CfEdit. It sher makes life alittel more simple. Cheesy
 
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