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Dec 18^th, 2004 at 12:57pm

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Nothing fancy, just 2 mildly edited shots...

Messerschmitt doing it's thing, look menacing...

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Kris

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Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 1:35pm

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Very good edits there,Kris!
And now one with a 109 shooting down a Spit. Wink

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Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 1:42pm

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Hmmm... better switch to IL2 then... Wink

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Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 2:33pm

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Cool Black and White shots Omag!

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Reply #4 - Dec 19^th, 2004 at 4:32pm

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And now one with a 109 shooting down a Spit. Wink

Nah, we want to keep this all historically accurate. Grin

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Reply #5 - Dec 19^th, 2004 at 4:47pm

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Very nice Kris Wink

There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #6 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 9:41am

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Nah, we want to keep this all historically accurate. Grin

Yep. So we want to see a 109E shooting down about 80 Spits and a Spit shooting down about 20 109s. Wink

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Reply #7 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 9:50am

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Who won the bloddy war?

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Reply #8 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 2:22pm

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Who won the bloddy war?

The allies. But we've had far higher scoring aces,like Marseille and Hartmann.
We were just far too few... Wink

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Reply #9 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 5:40pm

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Who won the bloddy war?

I so hope this is meant as a joke... Otherwise back to the schoolbooks youngman... Grin

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Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 8:16pm

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The allies. But we've had far higher scoring aces,like Marseille and Hartmann.
We were just far too few... Wink

Dont forget Adolf Galland! Wink

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Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 3:45am

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Dont forget Adolf Galland! Wink

...and hundreds of others who had more kills than the best alliied ace (a Russian,AFAIK).

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Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 4:20am

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But weren't most Luftwaffe kills scored against inferior russian craft?

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Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 4:26am

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But weren't most Luftwaffe kills scored against inferior russian craft?

Depnds. I wouldn't consider russian craft inferior. But Luftwaffe pilots were on duty 24/7 and for the whole rest of the war,while allied (western) pilots were retired after 25 missions or sent back home.
Methinks the main cause for the high scores of the Luftwaffe were the inferiorly trained russian pilots.

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Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 4:38am

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Depnds. I wouldn't consider russian craft inferior. But Luftwaffe pilots were on duty 24/7 and for the whole rest of the war,while allied (western) pilots were retired after 25 missions or sent back home.
Methinks the main cause for the high scores of the Luftwaffe were the inferiorly trained russian pilots.

Good thing I phrased it as a question, and not a statement.

I wasn't implying all russian planes were inferior,
just the ones the Germans would have faced in the early stages of their operation.

As for that twenty-five mission then get sent back doohickey, I didn't know that.
So I'm going to concur with your notion.

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Reply #15 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 12:23pm

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I so hope this is meant as a joke... Otherwise back to the schoolbooks youngman... Grin

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Reply #16 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 3:07pm

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I wasn't implying all russian planes were inferior,
just the ones the Germans would have faced in the early stages of their operation.

Yeah, they were. But the funny thing is that the most successful fighter pilot ever, Erich Hartmann (352 victories) came to the front in late 1942. By 1943, when around the time of the battle of Kursk and the russian air force swarming around like swarms of bees, he could get a grip on things and shot down one plane after another.
Maybe it was the huge numerical inferiority that made the Luftwaffe so good. The yhad many,many targets for weapons training. Wink

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Reply #17 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 5:07pm

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Yeah, they were. But the funny thing is that the most successful fighter pilot ever, Erich Hartmann (352 victories) came to the front in late 1942. By 1943, when around the time of the battle of Kursk and the russian air force swarming around like swarms of bees, he could get a grip on things and shot down one plane after another.
Maybe it was the huge numerical inferiority that made the Luftwaffe so good. The yhad many,many targets for weapons training. Wink

That could be how we won the battle of britain. Grin

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Reply #18 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 5:14pm

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Yup. Many, almost defenseless targets (He-111s & Ju-87).

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