Does anyone know what the A350 is???...I imagine it is an Airbus but the only new Airbus that I know of is the A380?


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Well said Craig. I don't know where Airbus will be in about 5 years but it will be interesting to watch. I can't wait to see if the A380 will even fly.

I don't see why Airbus is saying this is a totally new aircraft. Its the same is the A330 and I think if I saw one at the airport I would'nt know it wasnt an A330.

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It will, probably in April or so 2005, expect to see the prototype coming out the paintshop in its house colours very soon...


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You probably wouldn't, but with completely new wings fuselage sections and the same generation engines as the 7E7 performance should be increased markedly over any standard variation. I see it as common sense - why develop a completely new aircraft when you can adapt an existing design...

Charlie

They're all just a little worried at a european company building better aircraft than Boeing.

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Charlie,

I was just stating that it will be interesting to watch the progress of Airbus over the next 5 years. You know, seeing what airlines buy threre new AC and such.

I really think Boeing will still be the leader in 10 years. With the 787, they're looking pretty good right now. Just my opinion.

Urgh here we go. Professor Craig. Firstly, my dislike of airbus comes from the fact they gave my dad a job then a few days before he was to start they took it away giving some bogus reason.
Now to the technical side. The 7E7 is designed not to compete with anything, however its designed to replace many current aircraft. Early 767's 757's and even some of the older 777's. Its also designed to replace the A300, early A330's and A340's this is why the 7E7 is going to be a big seller. The A350 currently isnt using the 7E7's engine technology, they have sacrificed this because of the fact its still an A330. However with there being 6 years till final production its still possible they might. As for the A380, i dont like it, why? i just dont Airbus have already stated its well over budget and its been suffering from weight problems for a while. Their original prediction of bars and weight rooms and swimming pools on board was stupid at the time and even more stupid now they know it cant happen. Its a very specific market that it will be in and i think airbus have spent too much money to enter such a selective area. I like their Planes, well the A330 at least, i didnt like the A320 which was awfully noisey. However i still think the 777 is the best plane from a passengers perspective, its spacious comfortable and very quiet. Still niether can compete with the DC10:)

Agreed, I find it funny how some people over at Anet get upset that the design of the planes changing and how they wont fly on it because it(7E7) doesnt look how it did in the first artistic impressions. They are saying it wont sell aswell because it looks like every other aircraft, they dont realise airlines couldnt give a hoot about what a plane looks like, nor could the general flying public. These so called enthusiasts make up maybe 10% at most of the the flying public, and their opinions on designs count as much as scruffy the janitor at boeing:)

honestly. is everyone here anti-airbus? well heres the plain truth i hate boeing. i simply love Airbus. as far as the A380 is concerned i hope it flies well and successfully. as far as the 7E7 i think its a waste of money. and the A350 i have no idea why airbus thought of such a crude idea for a competetion.

ashar

PS: i wasnt being rude or anything when i said i dont like Boeing. i really dont like em

Legitimate reasons...just because your dad didn't get a job there.

And why the antipathy towards the A-350?? This will be just an up-to-date version of the A-330 and no revolution like the A-380.
Bringing a product up-to-date by slapping some new features onto an existing platform is very common these days. Just look at your PC. The ATI 9800pro, for example, is just an upgraded 9700pro, which was revolutionary at its time.

And Airbus is the first company to do that in great style in the aircraft manufacturing sector.  So the uproar is completely injustified...

What were you expecting? A completely new medium-sized Airbus appearing out of nowhere?

I wouldn't wonder if Airbus was more successful with that strategy.

I still don't understand what all the fuss is about or why people get so passionate about companies they know very little about. Both Airbus & Boeing (alphabetical order in case someone takes offence ) are huge companies employing 1,000s of people. I assume their research departments know what they're doing or they wouldn't have been successful or still in business. That business happens to be building passenger aeroplanes for mass transport. There's only so many possible variations of what is basically an aluminium tube with wings. With modern computer design anything intended for the same purpose is bound to look very similar. Unless you're specifically interested in these things it's often very difficult to tell one company's product from another. I reckon to be pretty good at aircraft recognition but, with a few exceptions, most modern jet airliners look the same to me. This also applies to cars as I have little interest in either.

Most of what you, as an ordinary member of the general public, know about any new aircraft in the pipeline is based on publicity & company propaganda intended to throw competitors (each other) offtrack. This often has very little bearing on reality. With Airbus & Boeing it unfortunately seems to have turned into a slanging match.

Will these new designs be successful? As I said before, time will tell. Nobody dreamed the 747 would revolutionise mass air travel or still be carrying 1,000s of passengers every day almost 35 years after its first commercial flight. The company went to considerable financial risks to produce it & the gamble paid off handsomely. This is not always the case & they could have so easily failed. I think there's room for both companies & wish them both success.

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This is a very good point. I don't think any company is any better than another in this respect.

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I can remember people saying much the same about the new "Jumbo Jet" 35 years ago.
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generally the passenger numbers for the A380 are not much more than the 747-400. However wait until some of the asian and indian carriers get hold of it and configure it to single class only. 690 to 750 wouldnt be out of the question.

Hi Doug, A recent survey showed only a few airports were ready for the A380, i know memphis was 1, jfk might have been another. Others have been working as fast as possible to get their facilities ready. Dual jet bridges are being designed for it and the taxiway and parking spaces widend. I dont even want to guess what airports will have to do in terms of Immigration, after a recent trip through Charlotte, it took over an hour for 230 passengers to be processed from an A330, so god only knows what double that would take.

The point is people will take whats open to them. To say 550 people don't want to go from say Heathrow to New York is rediculous. You have a bigger aircraft you have fewer flights, so more people to go on each flight. And so you can have less aircraft, which uses less fuel and you get a huge saving on running costs.

After being able to cross the atlantic in 8 hours for so long people won't be willing to go back to the week or so it took in the Liners.

I have a feeling the A380 will end up dominating the Atlantic and Asian routes. A lot of people wanting to travel a long way.

Really our opinions are just that of people who like planes, most people couldn't care less what plane they catch, as long as it's quick and cheap. And what i'm trying to get at here is that if the turnaround times for the A380are very large people wont like it. Who wants to wait for 2 hours to get on an aeroplane.

So most people will fly on the aeroplane then airline booked them on, they have no choice really, we pick the time and date and the airline picks the aircraft

I dont know why everyones so exited about the A380 anyways. It's nothing new really, its just a 747 with a full top deck. Why they only started designing a competitor to the 747 now and not 20 years ago i dont know.

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Nobody. But everyone does. When was the last time you to an airport and was on the plane within two hours?

And as for other airliners, if it ain't a 737 then I don't know what it is.

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Lol good point.

I agree with Craig though, i would w8 for 2 hours, but i'm talking about the general public here.

Basically what woody said.
But to give an example.
Say BA has 6 flights heathrow to JFK a day, i dont know the exact number but its close.
you might have a 7am 9am 12noon 2pm 5pm and 7pm flights.
Now with the A380 you could arrange your flight schedule to something like.
7am 11am 3pm and 7pm.
Thats assuming you have the avaliable number of A380's

That will be the other big problem with the A380. If you have a mechanical fault that cant be fixed within the window, and need a new aircraft to replace it. some people will miss out

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I havent heard it 

LOL yes i remember your story well Mr Hagar