Simviation Forum - overclocking P4 2.52GHz

Dec 14^th, 2004 at 6:50pm

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Hey all I was just wonderin about some basic overclocking stuff like
-can it hurt the cpu over time?
-how much extra Hz can u get without hurting the processor?

just info about overclocking in general like an "intro to overclocking" or sumthing like that lol thx a lot

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Reply #1 - Dec 14^th, 2004 at 11:32pm

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Overclocking can only hurt the cpu if there is not enough cooling. How much can you overclock depends on the processor and the cooling you have.

Also, when asking about overclocking your own system, it helps to include the following info:
CPU name, brand and model number
Memory speed and frequency
current cooling solution.

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Reply #2 - Dec 15^th, 2004 at 3:23pm

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My cpu is a P4:

-Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.53 GHz
-CPU Driver: v5.1.2600.0
-RAM- 512 DDR-SD PC2100
-Fan cooled (dont know the specs on the fan sry)

i found this site that talks about the heatsink/fan...
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1610&page=3

I ve seen things on the web that say "oh, you cant oc a dell or gateway etc." but i also have seen people say "I got a couple hundred MHz out of it" also some people say that the warranty gets voided...
anybody know whats true and whats not?

-do u void the warranty by OC'ing?
-Can you oc a system like a dimension 2400?
-Is the CPU the only thing one can oc??

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Reply #3 - Dec 15^th, 2004 at 10:55pm

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My cpu is a P4:

-Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.53 GHz
-CPU Driver: v5.1.2600.0
-RAM- 512 DDR-SD PC2100
-Fan cooled (dont know the specs on the fan sry)

i found this site that talks about the heatsink/fan...
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1610&page=3

I ve seen things on the web that say "oh, you cant oc a dell or gateway etc." but i also have seen people say "I got a couple hundred MHz out of it" also some people say that the warranty gets voided...
anybody know whats true and whats not?

-do u void the warranty by OC'ing?
-Can you oc a system like a dimension 2400?
-Is the CPU the only thing one can oc??

-OC'ing will viod the warranty. But let me tell you, I have never ever used any warrenty in my life.
-i haven't had a dell for some time, but from what I've heard, they can't be overclocked or even upgraded. I heard the actualy voltagies they use are completely different from normal. Plus, i heard their systems are full of resisters and such to prevent even simple upgrades (like vid card upgrades). Again, correct me if I'm wrong anyone.
-Nope, the vid card (and its memory) and system memory can be overclocked. Overclocking these allows people to get really high scores in 3dmark and other benchmarking software.

BTW, if you using the stock fan that came with your system, it has adquedate thermal cooling at stock speeds. Overclock it and the fan will not be able to cool it effectively and the CPU could overheat. This has the potenial to cause damage, but the thermal protection on intel's are extremely good so the chances are small.

IF you want to overclock, consider getting a better fan with a pure copper heatsink. That will get you better cooling and actually allow you to overclock effectively. If your serious about overclocking, a water cooling solution is essential. Also, make sure the cooling solution for your chipset is adequate as well as it can get hot as well. Generally, a northbridge fan is all you need.

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Reply #4 - Dec 16^th, 2004 at 1:25pm

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Overclocking guide for newbies here:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=31942cd515436151f64beb6413d034...

That says a lot of useful stuff!!

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Reply #5 - Dec 27^th, 2004 at 9:55pm

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Well I hear Dells can be upgraded, for overclocking I dont know, kind of doubt it as they have their Special BIOS but they can be overclocked through a windows based program. Stock cooling you might be able to get 100Mhz out of it but watch the temps very closeley..

As for OC and lifespan and warranties it does void warranties and well it dosent really hurt CPUs but will lower the life expectancy, CPUs at stock speeds will last longer than the rest of the computer, give it a good oc you caan say you are gonna kiss that CPU goodby in 3 years dependinng on the size of the OC:)

I just ocd my AMD64 2.0 Ghz to 2.2 Ghz with 1C temp change(will good HSF)

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Reply #6 - Dec 28^th, 2004 at 5:01pm

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As long as it is properly cooled, the change in life exspectancy isn't drastic.

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Reply #7 - Dec 29^th, 2004 at 10:18am

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Well I hear Dells can be upgraded, for overclocking I dont know, kind of doubt it as they have their Special BIOS but they can be overclocked through a windows based program. Stock cooling you might be able to get 100Mhz out of it but watch the temps very closeley..

As for OC and lifespan and warranties it does void warranties and well it dosent really hurt CPUs but will lower the life expectancy, CPUs at stock speeds will last longer than the rest of the computer, give it a good oc you caan say you are gonna kiss that CPU goodby in 3 years dependinng on the size of the OC:)

I just ocd my AMD64 2.0 Ghz to 2.2 Ghz with 1C temp change(will good HSF)

Well the non-upgradable part is definetly right Tongue

My computer came with TWO ram slots, TWO optical drive bays, NO agp slot, and only THREE pci slots Angry

lol I even had to pay extra for the floppy as well Roll Eyes

As for the overclocking part I think you might be right because in BIOS the CPU information is all in blue as opposed to the time, date, etc.. which is in grey and which you can change.

oh well, so much for overclocking Wink

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Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2004 at 10:45pm

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You need to use a windows base program such as CPUCool or something of that such....but with stock cooling you ca expect a max of 100 Mhx with thse temps..

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