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Reply #15 - Dec 15th, 2004 at 12:15am

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Any intel 915 chipset is decent. The more expensive 925 is also great if you can afford it. The chipset in part of the mobo, so just look for the chipset in a mobo. Be sure to make sure the mobo socket matches that of the mobo you bought. For the current intel prescott's, the socket is 775

Your case takes ATX form factor mobo's so make sure any mobo you buy is ATX compatible.


I didn't buy any motherboard yet.  The chipset is a what?  I know the componets in a comp (factory built that is) and I don't know much about chipset.
And the socket is for the processor (CPU)?
How expensive is the 925?

What I get is that your saying I have get a motherboard that accepts a 925 chipset or has a 925 chipset in it?

Or I buy the ATX motherboard, make sure the motherboard socket matches the 925 chipset correct?

I'm gonna need a clearer explaintation...lol
 

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Reply #16 - Dec 15th, 2004 at 10:36pm

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No,

the chipset is the heart of the mobo (like the CPU is the heart of the system)

The 925 and 915 are two chipsets for mobo made by intel. They are compatible with intel CPU's,

When you look for a mobo, it will say what chipset is on the board (ie 915 or 925), Choose the chipset that accomadates you.
 

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Reply #17 - Dec 28th, 2004 at 9:10pm

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No,

the chipset is the heart of the mobo (like the CPU is the heart of the system)

The 925 and 915 are two chipsets for mobo made by intel. They are compatible with intel CPU's,

When you look for a mobo, it will say what chipset is on the board (ie 915 or 925), Choose the chipset that accomadates you.


Ok, got it.

I have the funds now to start building it.

Where can I find a Intel 925 chipset which is ATX form factor motherboard?
I searched compusa.com and I assume you're talking about this with 775 socket correct?
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=317855&pfp=BROWSE

Please help me out here, I know what else to get such as power supply, cables, cd-rw/dvd drive, etc but the motherboard is something I'd like to make sure I'm correct on.
 

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Reply #18 - Dec 29th, 2004 at 7:52am

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Ok, got it.

I have the funds now to start building it.

Where can I find a Intel 925 chipset which is ATX form factor motherboard?
I searched compusa.com and I assume you're talking about this with 775 socket correct?
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=317855&pfp=BROWSE

Please help me out here, I know what else to get such as power supply, cables, cd-rw/dvd drive, etc but the motherboard is something I'd like to make sure I'm correct on.


Go for newegg.com and see what you can find.

Here is the mobo I use for my intel system:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-516&depa=0
Its a bit pricy, but you couldn't possibly fit more features onto one board. It uses the 925 chipset.

A slightly cheaper versian using the 915 chipset is here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-507&depa=0

Both above are ATX form factor.

Your welcome to choose whatever one you want, the above are only my recommendations. And there are others. Here is the search result for all ATX socket 775 intel mobo, pick one you like.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=0

Good luck.



 

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Reply #19 - Dec 29th, 2004 at 8:28pm

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Go for newegg.com and see what you can find.

Here is the mobo I use for my intel system:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-516&depa=0
Its a bit pricy, but you couldn't possibly fit more features onto one board. It uses the 925 chipset.

A slightly cheaper versian using the 915 chipset is here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-507&depa=0

Both above are ATX form factor.

Your welcome to choose whatever one you want, the above are only my recommendations. And there are others. Here is the search result for all ATX socket 775 intel mobo, pick one you like.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=0

Good luck.


I clicked on all your links and even went to the website newegg.com and this is the only thing I see:
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No web site is configured at this address.

 

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Reply #20 - Dec 31st, 2004 at 12:44am

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The website is working now,

I'm gonna get this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-516&depa=0

The price difference between the 925 and 915 chipset is minimal, not a big concern to me.  I'll opt for the 925 for performance.

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Supported CPU: LGA775 Pentium 4 EE(HT) Processors


Now I'll need a Intel Pentium 4 CPU, which one would you recommend?

Also what power supply would be best suited?
 

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Reply #21 - Jan 1st, 2005 at 2:42am

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Supported CPU: LGA775 Pentium 4 EE(HT) Processors


The p4 EE (EE=Extreme Edition) are extremely expensive CPU's easily more that 1000 USD. For about 100 less, you could get an athlon64 FX-55 and performence tenfold better. The intel EE's CPU's just don't cut it unless you do heavy multimedia work (like vid editing) for which intel EE's excel.

However, you mobo supports socket 775, which means it supports any socket 775 processor (not just p4 EE's).

I would suggest a prescott core 3.2 intel p4.
This model 540 p4 offers decent performence at a good price.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-183&depa=1

As for power supplies, this one should suit you just fine.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-153-006&DEPA=0
 

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Reply #22 - Jan 2nd, 2005 at 2:20am

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As for power supplies, this one should suit you just fine.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-153-006&DEPA=0


The video card I'm planning to use recommends 480W power supply

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System requirements:
A 480W system power supply is highly recommanded
Intel Pentium, AMD or compatible CPUs
128 MB system memory or more
AGP compliant motherboard supporting AGP8X
Two available hard disk drive power dongles (smaller floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient)


which is this vid card:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-143-021&DEPA=1

How's this one?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-153-007&depa=0
 

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Reply #23 - Jan 4th, 2005 at 1:15am

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Here's my list so far, close to be final.

Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-153-007&depa=0

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-516&depa=0

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-183&depa=1

Video card:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-143-021&DEPA=1

Hard drive:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-366&depa=0

What about the RAM? what do you suggest or recommend I go with?
I'll need 240pin DDR2 DIMM's
mobo holds up to 4 of em.

How's 2 of this for RAM?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-044&depa=1

I know i'm missing a few things such as connectors for the HD to the mobo, is there any that lights up for the Western Digital Raptor HD I'm planning to use?

This right for the HD to mobo?
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=310508&pfp=SEARCH

What else?
 

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Reply #24 - Jan 5th, 2005 at 12:21pm

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ttt, paging the_autopilot and GunnerMan
 

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Reply #25 - Jan 5th, 2005 at 12:38pm

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That HDD will get full pretty quickly!

I would have that one for your OS and main programs.  Get another to install games onto, like a 250gig Sata 7500rpm one.

Ram is overkill unless you plan to overclock.  The FSB of your CPU is 800 (400 really though its HyperThreading that boosts it) which PC3200 will do just fine for.  Try and get some PC3200 with a CAS2 rating.  The lower your timings the better.  If you could run 5-2-2-2 that would be great!

I dont know that make of PSU myself but if its a good one it will be fine.  I have a 480w Antec Truepower in mine and it powers my system no problems and I have lots in there now:

6800Ultra
3 HDD's (Two Sata one Pata)
2 CD/DVD-roms
8 Fans
 

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Reply #26 - Jan 5th, 2005 at 1:52pm

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I don't use more than 20-25 gigs normally, that's with everything I have with WinXP pro and pictures, files, etc.

Cas2?

How's this
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-454&depa=0

or got a better recommendation?
 

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Reply #27 - Jan 5th, 2005 at 3:25pm

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I been re-looking at the specs of that first stick of ram you put up

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-044&depa=1

I cant guarantee this but looking at the specs it has good bandwidth.  I am wondering because you would be running at slower speed whether you could tighten the timings!  I did this once, I put PC3200 stuff in my setup that only needed PC2700 and I was able to tighten the timings a lot.  It may be worth a try, its just its not guaranteed. 

One thing I am not up on is Pentiums though, can you run the Ram FSB higher than the CPU FSB? if you can then it may be worth getting the faster stuff.  On AMDs you cant do this ram and cpu speed must be the same for it to work best.
 

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Reply #28 - Jan 5th, 2005 at 4:53pm

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I don't think that's true for the Pentium's.  Excessive RAM won't make it go slower, just not needed until the CPU can do it.
 

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Reply #29 - Jan 6th, 2005 at 1:41am

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Then the higher speed stuff is a little overkill.  If the ram could be run faster than the CPU then that would be great.  I am not sure how much effect the extra bandwidth will have on your system.

On my system I have 1gig Corsair XMS CPT2 stuff.  Its rated at CAS2.5 but I altered the timings in BIOS and its running at CAS2  (10-2-2-2)  In a bench test prog I had my ram worked extremely efficiently and had an access time of 4.6ms or ns I cant remember.  It was top of the list which surprised me  Grin 

Your limited to what manufacturer you can buy from on that site though.  Maybe the Kingston HyperX stuff would do the job ok and thats CAS2 but has a slightly lower bandwidth.  My next ram is gonna be some OCZ stuff but there isn't any of that on that site.
 

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