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Dec 4th, 2004 at 1:04pm

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I'm in a bit of a rush, but I'll throw in these images of the Embraer regional Jet, model 145 Smiley
Pics are from my 2nd flight, which was between EGKK-EDDT. Have not flown with the VC model since it is VERY FPS heavy, way worse than the 737NG (PMDG)

Climbing away from Gatwick
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exterior shots
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The 2d panel is really nicely done, llike the reflections of the backup "PFD" on the AP panel. Nice touch Smiley
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Descending into Berlin. The SID/STAR database is far from complete, but at least there were some arrivals programmed in the FMC for Berlin.
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Touching down on RWY 26R
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Quick notes: What was most problematic was the FADEC programming, that is done in the overhead panel...never seen that before  Grin

Will be more thourough tomorrow!
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 2:37pm

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looks nice..how does she fly by means of nav of speed and track...I don't see LNAV or VNAV but then again it isn't a Boeing Wink
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 7:32pm

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Very nice.  That Cockpit is impressive!
 

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Reply #3 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 7:34pm

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Very Nice, First thing I'll get after a new graphics card, Nice cockpit lighting!
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 7:37pm

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great shots, i remember looking into the cockpit of a usair 145 during my summer trip, it was unbelievable
 
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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 9:29am

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Junior, you should know better Wink
The ERJ comes with LNAV and a VNAV advisory (such as the CRJ and ATR aircrafts, very common)
Here, take a look  Smiley

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But what impresses me the most are the patterns available in thew FMC; racetrack, procedure turn, orbit(!), radial pattern and a wpt by-pass function. Orbit will be nice to try on VOR arc approaches (if it's possible, not really sure?)  Smiley
 
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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 1:47pm

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Those two screens sure are busy.  Looks like a definate manual reader to me.
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 1:48pm

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Ahhh I know..but then again I never completely understood the autothrottle in the WILCO CRJ Cry..I tried 3 flights with it and never got her up into the sky with a fully working FMC...(I got distracted using the PMDG737 : and the WILCO 767 which has great sound)...but anyways when I get FS2004 for Christmas...I know a little behind.. I will purchase the ERJ..it has to be one of my fav. RJ
 
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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 2:25pm

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the CRJ does not have an autothrottle, perhaps that's the reason you did not understand it  Grin
And the ERJ does not have autothrottle either, but like the CRJ700/900 (I believe) it is equipped with a FADEC, which controls the thrust rating, amongst others. It is not able to maintain the speed in cruize though (in climbs/descents you can control speed by AP pitch commands)
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 5:25pm

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See...that is confusing to me..but if I probally read a tutorial or something I would easily understand

"Off to look for a tutorial"
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 5:56pm

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What's so confusing?

AP is set to descent at 280kts.
If you retard the throttles the AP commands a nose down attitude so the speed can increase.
If you advance the throttles, the opposite will happen: Since the AP is set to maintain 280kts it will command a pitch up attitude to prevent you from busting the Selected IAS on the AP panel?  Smiley
 
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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 6:09pm

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What would happen if ATC tells me to maintain a speed  of 220 from 250? Should I decrease thrust (Da I guess so)..which AP would then increase nose pitch to help slow down?
 
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Reply #12 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 6:21pm

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If ATC asks you to decrease speed from 250 to 220 you can do various things. Either switch to VS and retard the throttles. This will keep the descent rate while you are decelerating. Just to avoid the nose up attitude that would occur if you flew with an IAS descent. When you are at 220, select IAS again. However at 220 you are pretty close to the airport so I'd keep the V/S mode and control the speed manually.

The other way of doing it
Spin the IAS wheel to 220 and retard the throttles smoothly and watch the aircraft's nose rise up to aid in decelerating the aircraft. When speed is at 220, the nose will come down again, increasing the rate of descent.

I'd prefer the first option, though.
 
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Reply #13 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 6:44pm

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ATC can tell you what speed to fly?  This is new to me...
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 7:03pm

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ATC can tell you what speed to fly?  This is new to me...



Yes mainly when landing but they do tell sometimes if the airports vincinity is crowed..They mainly vector you around to put you in a "pattern"... If you want to see how is is really done do this..

go to Passurs website of Boston Logan
http://www4.passur.com/bos.html
and also go to LIVEATC.NET and scroll about half way down the page and click on Boston Approach/Departure you will here boston vectoring aircraft all around and you can see teh aircaft doing these manuvers
http://liveatc.net/feedindex.php
 
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Reply #15 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 7:05pm

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Yes mainly when landing but they do tell sometimes if the airports vincinity is crowed..They mainly vector you around to put you in a "pattern"... If you want to see how is is really done do this..

go to Passurs website of Boston Logan
http://www4.passur.com/bos.html
and also go to LIVEATC.NET and scroll about half way down the page and click on Boston Approach/Departure you will here boston vectoring aircraft all around and you can see the aircaft doing these manuvers
http://liveatc.net/feedindex.php

I am a huge fan of the site..I would love to here some Europe chat..but "You" have certain restriction which limit ATC talk.... Cry
 
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Reply #16 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 7:05pm

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ATC can tell you what speed to fly?  This is new to me...


In the real world - YES
In FS - NO (unless you fly IVAO or VATSIM)

But we are just being theoretical here  Wink
 
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Reply #17 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 7:23pm

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ATC in real life uses speed as a tool to maintain separation between aircraft, and it works quite well.  Just imagine in a busy terminal environment how difficult it would be to maintain a longitudinal separation of 5 miles if every aircraft was a different airspeeds.  Just like vertical, longitudinal and lateral separations, speed adjustment is a valuable tool available to controllers.

 
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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 7:41pm

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I wish FS put in some sort of REAL atc..instead of this sh*ty one they have given us Wink
 
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Reply #19 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 7:59pm

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Are you complaining?  Grin
Then try the new ATC simulator, partly developed by a very good friend of mine (same guy who wrote the guide below)

So far you can only assume the role of a controller at ESSA, but it's FREE and it's GREAT  Wink
Official page
http://atc.flygsimulator.se/

Quick guide
http://www.fsnordic.net/discussion/index.php?board=16;action=display;threadid=32...
 
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Reply #20 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 8:44pm

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Awesome it seems to be some sort of vatsim? ..ecxept this is way easier..also I noted on the tutorial that it asked for a departure and arrival runway...how should I put a arrival into my departing airport?

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Reply #21 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 9:02pm

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the arrival aircrafts are already flying on their assigned STARs (which are not assigned by you), but you must choose which runway they will land on Smiley

Edit: Of course you have to vector them and clear them for approach etc.
It's great fun though  Smiley
 
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Reply #22 - Dec 6th, 2004 at 10:07am

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and also go to LIVEATC.NET

Yes, I've been there, and I've listened to Boston approach.  It's awesome, but I've only done it once.  Gotta get around to it more often!
 
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