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Nov 28th, 2004 at 9:34am
Triple_7   Ex Member

 
After taking a good look at my systems specs i came to a conclusion something is not right.  There are people runing FS2004 on computers slower then mine and I can barely run FS2002 at a decent quality Sad  Im not sure as to what settings might need changing but it is currently running at 1467 mghz, 512 DDR ram, 128 mb GeForce FX 5200 graphics card, and Win 98SE.  I can manage a constant 25 fps in the air, but while on the ground i get more like 10 to 12 at small airports and 7 to 8 at larger like atlanta.  This is with no or maby one AI aircraft at the airport.  With more then 2 AI on the ground it drops me to 4 or 5 FPS Undecided   Also graphic settings in 02 are set at about medium.  I know i sould be getting much more performance then i am.  So any advise on how to solve the problem would be greatly apriciated Wink
 
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Reply #1 - Nov 28th, 2004 at 6:57pm

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Change to XP and  you'll find things improve considerably.  Wink
 
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Reply #2 - Nov 28th, 2004 at 8:20pm
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ah but that would mean locating and buying a $125 disk that my cash flow would not allow Tongue  If anything XP would slow it down i would think.  98SE runs everything and i dont see why a new op system with even more requirments could make an improvment ???
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 29th, 2004 at 5:09am

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Well its down to the way the sofftware works!

If you think like that why did you buy FS2004?  You would be fine running FS2000 wouldn't you? same scenario with the OS.  Things get better and work better (Well usually  Wink)
 
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Reply #4 - Nov 29th, 2004 at 6:28pm
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well a few months ago i did try 2004 but returned it after only getting fps of 2-3 no matter where i was.  2002 seems to run fine just not as well as i have seen with people who have similar systems be they XP or 98.  dont know what might cause it but i have tried all i know Embarrassed
 
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Reply #5 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 7:22am

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My g/friend only has a GF3 ti200 (64meg) graphics card and a 1333MHz athlon CPU and 512ddr PC2100 (266Mhz) ram.

Admittingley it can not run max settings but FS2004 will run just fine on that system!  I think its more likely somthing is playing up on your system than it purely being FS2004.
 
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Reply #6 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 7:24pm
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Well as i have mentioned before.  Im running FS2002 and get that fps problem with even modified AI aircraft "FS Painters" models that i fly.  i cant fly anything but or i spend forever just rolling down the runway.  I think its probably something in eather FS or my computer that i need to tweak but i dont know what.  If anyone with a similar system can post some of there settings that might help.  mine are currently about half in FS and my graphics card is to full performance ???
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 1:03pm

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Windows 98 is old, and by XP's standards, unstable.

Software is optimised for XP. Get over it  Tongue  Grin

You won't need a new hard drive, just back up what you wish to save, re-format and install Xp on your existing drive.
Alternatively, partition your existing drive, and have XP on the other partition, keeping '98 happy.

I have a 384MB pIII 667, it won't run FS9 under '98 at anything other than a crawl (4 - 9 fps!), with XP installed, it happily runs FS9 (average 22 fps) albeit at low settings. Its perfectly playable.  Smiley

Thats using an ancient Geforce2 GTS 3D card!

3rd Party painters models can cause frame rate issues, usually, the textures are larger than stock planes, hence slowdown, sometimes even on high end kit.  Roll Eyes


 
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Reply #8 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 11:45pm
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OK OK OK I'M CONVINCED Tongue Roll Eyes

If i can locate an XP disk for a "REASONABLE" price then i might pick it up.  I guess i hate XP for the fact i was completely raised on 95 and 98.  XP and mac systems we use at my vocational class just seem weird to me.  But thats mac and at least XP is not as bad.  But unless i find a disk thats under 100 bucks it probly wont happen for awhile.  i just cant afford it at this moment otherwise.  But i will be in town tommarow and will be on the look out for one.  as for now im off to bed seems though its nearing midnight Tongue
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 10:30am

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OK OK OK I'M CONVINCED Tongue Roll Eyes

If i can locate an XP disk for a "REASONABLE" price then i might pick it up.  I guess i hate XP for the fact i was completely raised on 95 and 98.  XP and mac systems we use at my vocational class just seem weird to me.  But thats mac and at least XP is not as bad.  But unless i find a disk thats under 100 bucks it probly wont happen for awhile.  i just cant afford it at this moment otherwise.  But i will be in town tommarow and will be on the look out for one.  as for now im off to bed seems though its nearing midnight Tongue


Don't worry mate, you can set XP up so it looks just like '98 - as I have mine set! - the interface looks the same, the experience is sooo much better!  Wink

Slap me if you install XP and disagree, frankly I'd be staggered if you did'nt spot the improvements.

Not to mention the likes of Doom3 won't run under '98 Sad
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 12:55pm
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Well...Im going to get XP later today.  I had a little extra cash on my check this week and decided to use it for the disk.  So hopefully all goes well and things will improve...If not then its obviously something with the system itself.  Shall find out in a few hours Wink
 
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Reply #11 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 4:15pm

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Good luck...
Dan (98 SE lol...) Wink
 
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Reply #12 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 4:32pm

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Good luck...
Dan (98 SE lol...) Wink


...same 'ere...
Paul ('98 SE).

LOL...LOL...LOL... Grin...!

There has to be something else running in the background on yours to slow it down.... Roll Eyes....!

Paul.

P.S. My old AMD 850 MMX and Voodoo 3- 3000 PCI, ran FS 2002 Pro fine... 8)...!
My latest set-up, (at the bottom), just makes it run a little bit smoother, and gives me reflections, etc...
(30 FPS, locked at 30 FPS)

 
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Reply #13 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 4:35pm

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Fozzer, Fozzer, Fozzer, Fozzer, Fozzer! yay... Go on Paul, you tell 'em!
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 4:45pm

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Fozzer, Fozzer, Fozzer, Fozzer, Fozzer! yay... Go on Paul, you tell 'em!


Hi Dan...!

Keep it going... Wink...!
You, I, and Hagar have got to turn Scania into a slavvering, mind numbing, raving lunatic over the '98SE/XP contraversy...!
Love it... Grin...!

Cheers all... 8)...!

Paul.

P.S. ...he can't win if we stick together.. Wink... Grin...!
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Hi Dan...!

Keep it going... Wink...!
You, I, and Hagar have got to turn Scania into a slavvering, mind numbing, raving lunatic


Oh Bugger!

I've been working at the image / profile you describe Fozzer, for years! it would seem I've failed !

You obviously don't know me at all !

No need to turn this worm mate.  Kiss  Wink  Grin

He He, those words describe your average Trucker pretty perfectly!  Cheesy
 
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Reply #16 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 5:01pm

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But I see 4 Series (His name seems to be Paul as well...) Is English!! Not only am I going to have to contend with two English people, you've both got THE SAME NAME!! Freaky... Oh well, in desperate times we must unite, init Paul (Fosbury) lol....  Grin
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Reply #17 - Dec 12th, 2004 at 6:13pm

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But I see 4 Series (His name seems to be Paul as well...) Is English!! Not only am I going to have to contend with two English people, you've both got THE SAME NAME!! Freaky... Oh well, in desperate times we must unite, init Paul (Fosbury) lol....  Grin
Dan (Garner)


Hi Dan...!
You will be in good company with a pride of "Pauls"*...

Paul Fosb
e
ry

* They can be distinguished by their continued preference to either XP or '98SE... Wink...!
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Pauls of the world unite !
Wink

Rest assured Triple_7  (Trying to attempt to go back "on-topic"  Grin )  XP will fix all !

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Reply #19 - Dec 13th, 2004 at 8:46am

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On topic!!?? Naahhh, don't do that Paul, please!!!
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Reply #20 - Dec 20th, 2004 at 11:15am
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Well....So much for that one...After installing XP it began to find problems with the computer and before long just froze up and totaly crashed.  For some reason this did not surprize me...But for once we took it to an acual proffesional to see what they could do.  Turns out that computer has some faulty parts and acording to them should have never worked and never will.  We should be getting it back today with a list of what is wrong.  This time sence it is still under warenty till february we are demanding our money back...If they wont give it to us then small claims court.  Its faulty equipment so legaly they have to do something about it.  So we will see what happens.  Same as the last few times it has went down i am back to using my 350 mghtz IBM that hasnt failed me yet.  Though some good should come of this problem.  We are now looking at buying a new HP thats only $500 for everything including monitor.  even better yet LOTS more power.  2.93 ghz processor Shocked Wink  only comes with 256 ram but i have a stick of 256 to go with it as well as the 128 mb graphics card to replace the 64 in it.  So hopefully all goes well and within the next month or so we should have it Grin  cant wait...As for the xp disk i bought      im going to try for my money back sence its now usless to me.  that should help on the new one Wink
 
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