Would anyone care to start a group and fly once a week?  Personally, for the last couple of weeks I've been having a room on ther Zone labeled for Simviation Members, but have had no real bites.  It would be great to be able to get together one evening per week and fly for an hour or so...

Kevin

JB, it might not be that bad.  If you wanted a true dedicated set up, you'd of course have to have a computer set aside for just that part of the system, but you could probably make due with leaving your computer on and just setting it up as an IP game.

Same for voice, if so interested.

Yeah I definitely don't recommend the zone.  IP games are the way to go, IMO.

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Hyperion,

What I meant above was more of a permanent SimV flight server....24 hour 7 day/week setup.  Like the WSPilots setup.... but specifically for SimV.  Leaving a "general use machine" connected to the net with open ports and sensitive information on it is just ASKING for problems  .

That approach would need a dedicated server and a dedicated DSL /broadband line.  Lots of bucks for hardware and also monthly.    Not to mention the problems that come with hosting such stuff  ................ which if you go to the WSPilots server and check out DS20LA's comments (the host) in the various forum threads ......... clearly becomes a pain in the butt.

DPR... if I know enough in advance .... Sunday mornings are possible at least for now.  But aren't you in the UK?  This international issue is one of the difficulties in setting this up..... people in different time zones.  We should all talk in GMT... so we know what we are talking about no matter where we live.

It would be nice if we could publicise a "SimV Fly In".  But if we get too many people........ we'll need live ATC too  .

best,

...............john

John, I am in the US...  Chicago to be exact! 

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LOL...!

Hi Kevin...!
Would it also be necessary to seperate the Flight Sims, eg:
FS 2002, FS 2004...?
I've got both sims, but I only fly FS 2002... ... ...!

Cheers... ...!

Paul...Piper J3 Cub...80 knots...500 ft AGL... ... ...!

So let's see here about "tying down" some more details of this first single flight possibility.  If we can get it to work once... then maybe it happens on a more regular basis.

My first thought here is for DPR.......

If you are going to "host" this... you'll need to spend some time setting up the FSHost software on your machine... and then you'll need to test it to get it working.  I'd guess this is going to take some real effort.  Sorry I can't help..... I know NOTHING about this setup stuff. 

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Realworld Timeframe:  Sunday "morning" (in the USA)  ......... what exact time?

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Hosting Server:  IP game with DPR running FSHost as the "server".  Do we run default ports open?

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Weather:  I'd suggest real time Jeppesen weather on update format.

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Simulation Timeframe:  I think we should pick an exact  time of day.... synchronize our watches so to speak..... so that everyone is flying in the same lighting conditions.

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Communications:  Default sim chat... or do we try to use Teamspeak?  If we use Teamspeak... can we use an existing teamspeak server somewhere?

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Aircraft Type:  How about the first event is for a single specific aircraft?  So everyone is flying the same one as to speed and range and so on.

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Departure Airport:  I think "low and slow" is the place to start.  So a LARGE airport that is located near some good (default) VFR scenery (within 1/2 hour flight time) would be the place to start.  Alaska or Jackson Hole, Wyoming, comes to my mind..... but of course I am from the USA. 

A large airport will allow people to "pop up" in the multiplayer simulation at distruibuted locations... instead of all popping up on top of each other and having to sort out THAT mess without ATC.   Maybe we should pre-assign strarting gates/ramps/locations?  upon landing....people can just easily taxi out of the way.

Suggestions?

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Arrival Airport:  I think this should be within about a 50- 70 minute flight range from the departure airport.  That would keep the overall session to about 1 1/2 to 2 hours....... allowing for taxiing....any go-arounds.... and getting everyone on the ground again.

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Feel free to add to this above list.    This is just what I thought of as "issues" that need to be planned out.

best,

...................john

oldhorse,

Thanks for the suggestion.  You do have a point.

I just went to the link you gave above ...... and unfortunately it is loaded with pop-up ads.  And it says to join....go the messages forum.  But nowhere on the page is there a link I could find to the messages forum.  I clicked every hotlink on the page... and no place could I "join". 

Maybe the site is underutilized....because of the ads and the difficulty in finding the "sign up" function   .

I am not sure how a site would feel about a group from ANOTHER site descending "enmasse" upon that site to hold a "members" event.  Not to mention about how SimV would feel about having us do so.

SO it is a good idea... but we have to think about it a bit, I guess.  

best,

..................john

I agree it might be a bit rude to hijack someone elses site, so I think we might have to do our own.  At least then, we'll have our own headaches and no one elses.

I don't mind running to host program, just give me a week to learn the software and how to set it up. 

I hope we can keep this informal.  Something less rigid than a squadron or VA.  I rather just figured a bunch of friends might get together once a week and then figure what we were going to do.   

I also think we should fly whatever we want.  If we all try to fly the same plane, it'll be a pain deciding which one and if we fly all default planes, we are denying ourselves half of our hobby.  I don't know about you guys, but I have quite a few planes and in most cases, I don't get fooled by FS switching planes on me.

Most of all, ket's just follow the KISS rule; that is Keep It Simple Stupid... 

Again, I'm open for the time.  I just suggested Sunday morning because it's a nice relaxed quiet time.  Personally, I am free from about 10:00 AM to 12:00 while the wife and kids go to church.  Being the Godless heathen I am, I get to stay home to uneind and prepare for the next week. 

DPR,

Yeah... I didn't want to formally "hijack" a site either... that's why I brought it up  .

As to simple.... yup....no VA or Squadron for me either.  

I hope to be on the WSPilots server online flying tonight (Sunday 10/23/04) after about 7:30 PM Eastern.  It is at 66.147.177.125 for the IP address.  If you get a chance....log in.  My aircraft registration# is N100JB.  I'll probably be flying on hop #11.....KEGE to somewhere about 1 hour away.

If you logon....... make sure the appropriate ports are set open both in the sim and on your firewall/ router.


best,

...................john

Check out the link below to see a close up of the building...
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=screen;action=display;num=...

P.S. You were prob. about 10 feet above the building...

Jared,

Thanks for the "altitude" update.  I knew I didn't give it very much.  I didn't want to pull the nose up....cause I was too close to stall speed and the gusts could have made a mess for me.

One wonders if the M$ developemnt folks actually checked out most of the airprots before they released the product.  I found one with light poles running thru the runway once.

best,

.................john

IS there a server for simV members???
Whats the IP???
Im comming

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Yep, I understand your concern, those winds were a little tricky especially on landing. 

It's one thing to have a building on the end of the runway, but light poles? I mean a building you can stop short of, but light poles pretty much shutdown the airfield...

Perhaps I'll catch you then.  Let me know if you'd like to fly...

Kevin

yp, count me in as long as I've logged in and taken my business stats test before then...

So, shall it be all piper cubs? 

that does sound fun though..

Beautiful shot! I was going to try and be there, but couldn't get my mic set up quite right, and had to study anyways...

Well, I think I'm going to start flying every Sunday at 10:00, Central US time.  Anyone who wishes to join is welcome.

The IP address is 66.147.177.125.  Look for me...

Kevin

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is that 3PM UTC? (UTC=Universal Time Coordinated)

Cheers Theis

I have never done multiplayer  and this is a facet i would enjoy, though I want to find a server that doesnt take it so...literally

Yeah, that's the one I've been using.  Seems like a decent enough place...

That would be 10:00 PM.  Although, I could be enticed to do it at 10:00 am also... 

I'll be online tonight at 10:00 CST with the aforementioned host...

Please feel free to join and we'll cruise around the Arkansas Hole...   

Well this sounds like a great idea. I think this post should be made sticky in the main FS2k4 and 2k2 forum areas so more people can read it. Now I will put in my suggestions for it:

Time: GMT with a set time of day for all.

Place: Good scenery, and an airport appropriate to the size of aircraft we will be flying, this would help controll people that want to come in with concordes and `mess things up.

Aircraft: Each week could be a different type. EG: Week 1- Small and light single engine props. Week 2- Heavy transport aircraft.

As for a server maybe we could set something up with Eskyworld or Vatsim to host a server for us once a week. What would they benifit from this? Well they would get more publicity thus have more people come and fly with them and help make this sim "As Real As It Gets" and they always do have a free flght server hosted on Eskyworld that maybe they could let us use for one day a week.  Tell me what you think!

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LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Good one Jared... ...!
You are quick off the mark...love it.. ...!

..as for on-line flying, I have tried it countless time and have never got it to work successfully... ... ... ...!
(FS 2002 + FS Host).
...so I trundle the world on my own... ...!
LOL...!

Cheers all... 8)...!

Paul.

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Hi Insert...!
Nah...!
I run good-old-fashioned Win '98 SE, no firewalls, etc...LOL... ..!
I try the built-in FS 2002 multiplayer prog and the FS Host external prog....
I type-in the IP numbers, player names, Grandmothers birthday, location of the planets overhead, registration letters of my 'bike, etc....
Nuffin' 'appens... ...!
It's all-too flippin' complicated for me.... ...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers Mate... ...!

Paul....my sky is always empty...apart from a few fluffy clouds... ....!

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...that's probably why no-one wants to fly with me... ...?
..can't be arsed to wait for me to catch up in my itty-bitty Cessna 150's... ...LOL...!

Tee-Hee... ...!

Cheers Insert...!

Paul...never in too much of a hurry... ...LOL...!

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I'd love to fly with you, I'm in fact interested Cessna 150's.

Very strange!  

Whos Jordan?

I do!

Actually, that was 10:00 PM to start...

Ben,

DPR has taken a leave of absence to deal with other things from what I understand.

Perhaps when he returns he will head this up again?