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Oct 24th, 2004 at 10:17am

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Would anyone care to start a group and fly once a week?  Personally, for the last couple of weeks I've been having a room on ther Zone labeled for Simviation Members, but have had no real bites.  It would be great to be able to get together one evening per week and fly for an hour or so...

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Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 10:59am

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DPR,

The idea of a real SimV flight server has been on my mind for quite a while.  I imagine that setting up and running a dedicated one is about as big an overall  project as the rest of SimV is.....so read that as "expensive".....and threfore unlikely.

I tend to fly online on the WSPilots FSHost flight server.  I started out first with fs2002 trying "the Zone".... but had very poor luck connectinng to ANYTHING on there.  Ditto on fs2004.   All the FSHost based flight server sites seem far easier to connect to...at least for me.

What timeframe (GMT) were you thinking?

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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 11:25am

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JB, it might not be that bad.  If you wanted a true dedicated set up, you'd of course have to have a computer set aside for just that part of the system, but you could probably make due with leaving your computer on and just setting it up as an IP game.

Same for voice, if so interested.
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 11:25am

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I don't care WHEN we do it, just so long as we can get something set up that people feel comfortable with and has a regular time...

I've never tried FS Host, but I have never had a problem on the Zone, though I have heard many people say they have.  I think I'll check out FS Host.
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 12:07pm

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Yeah I definitely don't recommend the zone.  IP games are the way to go, IMO.
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 12:25pm

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So the main questions we need to address are:

What:  Which host do we use.  It would seem FSHost solves that...

Where:  Who is going to host it.  I think I could handle that once a week...

When:  When do we get together?  I think Sunday Mornings would be good for me, but I'm open to other suggestions...

Anyone up for that?
 

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Reply #6 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 12:40pm

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JB, it might not be that bad.  If you wanted a true dedicated set up, you'd of course have to have a computer set aside for just that part of the system, but you could probably make due with leaving your computer on and just setting it up as an IP game.


Hyperion,

What I meant above was more of a permanent SimV flight server....24 hour 7 day/week setup.  Like the WSPilots setup.... but specifically for SimV.  Leaving a "general use machine" connected to the net with open ports and sensitive information on it is just ASKING for problems  Wink.

That approach would need a dedicated server and a dedicated DSL /broadband line.  Lots of bucks for hardware and also monthly.   Wink  Not to mention the problems that come with hosting such stuff  ................ which if you go to the WSPilots server and check out DS20LA's comments (the host) in the various forum threads ......... clearly becomes a pain in the butt.

DPR... if I know enough in advance .... Sunday mornings are possible at least for now.  But aren't you in the UK?  This international issue is one of the difficulties in setting this up..... people in different time zones.  We should all talk in GMT... so we know what we are talking about no matter where we live.

It would be nice if we could publicise a "SimV Fly In".  But if we get too many people........ we'll need live ATC too  Wink.

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Reply #7 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 12:51pm

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...the trouble I always find, is that when I want to chuff around quietly, admiring the scenery and dropping off in private grass airstrips, etc, in my Cessna 152, everyone else is wanting to blast around the skies at 40,000 ft, at Mach 2, in Hellfire missile machines... Cry...!
It would be nice to have dedicated groups of flyers for different types of aircraft....
That way we could keep up with each other... Wink.... Grin...!

Cheers all...!

Paul.

P.S. FS Host seems good... 8)...!
 

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Reply #8 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 12:51pm

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John, I am in the US...  Chicago to be exact!  Smiley
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 12:53pm

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Not me, I am with you Fozzer.  I like to just hop around and see what looks good.  Once you get up to 40k feet, what are you going to see besides a big green field and a big blue field?  Wink
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 1:02pm

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Not me, I am with you Fozzer.  I like to just hop around and see what looks good.  Once you get up to 40k feet, what are you going to see besides a big green field and a big blue field?  Wink  


LOL...!

Hi Kevin...!
Would it also be necessary to seperate the Flight Sims, eg:
FS 2002, FS 2004...?
I've got both sims, but I only fly FS 2002... Wink... Grin...!

Cheers... Grin...!

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Reply #11 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 1:24pm

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Fozzer,

I don't think you have to have them separate.  Seems to me I have seen fs2002 and fs2004 folks flying together on a FSHost based server.  But I could be wrong about that.

As to choice of aircraft........

I'm happy either in a small single engine prop...or up to a four engine commercial aviation craft....although haven't tackled the 747 yet really.  Depends on what the "job" is  Wink.  I don't really fly "military" stuff... although have an A-10 Warthog that I very rarely take up.

I think for gathering the most people..... everyone SHOULD be able to handle a single engine prop. 

And DPR....... don't know how I thought you were in the UK.  Sorry.  Tongue

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Reply #12 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 1:47pm

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So let's see here about "tying down" some more details of this first single flight possibility.  If we can get it to work once... then maybe it happens on a more regular basis.

My first thought here is for DPR.......

If you are going to "host" this... you'll need to spend some time setting up the FSHost software on your machine... and then you'll need to test it to get it working.  I'd guess this is going to take some real effort.  Sorry I can't help..... I know NOTHING about this setup stuff.  Roll Eyes



Realworld Timeframe:  Sunday "morning" (in the USA)  ......... what exact time?


Hosting Server:  IP game with DPR running FSHost as the "server".  Do we run default ports open?


Weather:  I'd suggest real time Jeppesen weather on update format.


Simulation Timeframe:  I think we should pick an exact  time of day.... synchronize our watches so to speak..... so that everyone is flying in the same lighting conditions.


Communications:  Default sim chat... or do we try to use Teamspeak?  If we use Teamspeak... can we use an existing teamspeak server somewhere?


Aircraft Type:  How about the first event is for a single specific aircraft?  So everyone is flying the same one as to speed and range and so on.


Departure Airport:  I think "low and slow" is the place to start.  So a LARGE airport that is located near some good (default) VFR scenery (within 1/2 hour flight time) would be the place to start.  Alaska or Jackson Hole, Wyoming, comes to my mind..... but of course I am from the USA. 

A large airport will allow people to "pop up" in the multiplayer simulation at distruibuted locations... instead of all popping up on top of each other and having to sort out THAT mess without ATC.   Maybe we should pre-assign strarting gates/ramps/locations?  upon landing....people can just easily taxi out of the way.

Suggestions?


Arrival Airport:  I think this should be within about a 50- 70 minute flight range from the departure airport.  That would keep the overall session to about 1 1/2 to 2 hours....... allowing for taxiing....any go-arounds.... and getting everyone on the ground again.



Feel free to add to this above list.  Wink  This is just what I thought of as "issues" that need to be planned out.

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Reply #13 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 2:07pm

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Hi Yall
   Why put up A new host when there so many with no one flying on them.  http://www.midwest-aviation.net/
hase been asking for people to come an fly.  they have teamspeak and a forum board. the Fs host log on is 65.65.202.168   And T S is   65.65.202.168:8767
I be around for a Little while if you like to check it out Smiley



 

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Reply #14 - Oct 24th, 2004 at 3:02pm

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oldhorse,

Thanks for the suggestion.  You do have a point.

I just went to the link you gave above ...... and unfortunately it is loaded with pop-up ads.  And it says to join....go the messages forum.  But nowhere on the page is there a link I could find to the messages forum.  I clicked every hotlink on the page... and no place could I "join". 

Maybe the site is underutilized....because of the ads and the difficulty in finding the "sign up" function  Wink .

I am not sure how a site would feel about a group from ANOTHER site descending "enmasse" upon that site to hold a "members" event.  Not to mention about how SimV would feel about having us do so.

SO it is a good idea... but we have to think about it a bit, I guess.  

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