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Reply #15 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 8:24pm

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Let's not start a flame war over this...please?
 

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Reply #16 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 8:30pm

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Jordon, we can't start a flame war over this,...........
We are Mods!  Grin   Grin

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Reply #17 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 8:44pm

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Jordon, we can't start a flame war over this,...........
We are Mods!  Grin   Grin

Dave



I don't know about Dave, but I sure amn't a flamer, thweetie...
 

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Reply #18 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 8:59pm

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Reply #19 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 9:06pm

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Roberts...

First of all this forum is supposed to be about planes! Roll Eyes

Secondly, this obsession with guns cannot be healthy, even for a moderator.  I would suggest Ritalin. Grin
 

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Reply #20 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 9:31pm

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Roberts...

First of all this forum is supposed to be about planes! Roll Eyes

Secondly, this obsession with guns cannot be healthy, even for a moderator.  I would suggest Ritalin. Grin



That's really his marmalade-thrower
 

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Reply #21 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 9:35pm

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Nexus,

Hummmmmmm......... well....... with all due respect...... gotta' say something here:

I sat here on the forum last night for many, many hours monitoring the developing situation.  I am a mod only of the "Homebuild Cockpits" forum... so I can't do stuff like "lock" threads in other places.  But I can send PM's and I can alert Pete and the other mods and such.  I spent HOURS last night doing just that stuff in attempting to avert the mess flaring out of all reason.  Which it was doing.

Please keep in mind that using a false picture purportedly of "yourself" is, in and of itself, not a "capital offense".  For some time..... for all anyone knew...... AKA Fli-Girl might have been a highly sensitive and lonely person .... possibly even an ill person...... who was "bolstering" themselves behind an avatar.

It would have been totally irresponsible of us to "turn" on her instantly when some questions began to come up... until we could do some serious research and acertain if certain allegations were in fact the truth.

Before we did anything that would have been directly "negative" in "her" case...... we HAD to be sure we were on solid ground.  

Research happened.  Communications ensued with multiple parties... including him/her.  If you look at the Admin Board image above you'll see 765 distinct viewings on just that subject.

The significant "damage" happened in a matter of a few hours.  It was a wildfire.  By the time hoses could be gotten in place....... a bunch of acerage had burned.

The one thing that I hope ALL of us can agree on easily is that TROLLS are a sub-human life form!  Tongue

respectfully,  Smiley

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Reply #22 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 9:40pm

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I was a little suspicous of Fly_Girl myself.
After a while, I looked at the picture a little more closely, and I noticed how big... well, you get the point.  I also noticed that after a week or two, the bottom of the picture was lowered more to show more cleavage.  That's when I really started to wonder.

Not only was it the picture, but it was how she was acting so innocent and cute.  She acted like a real(excuse me for saying this and if anyone has a problem with it, I'm not trying to be rude, sorry) ditz.  Honestly, I'm not very suprised at all.  Kudos to the mods. for realizing it and getting rid of them, even if someone thinks it took too long.

BTW, and I'm sorry for asking, I'm confused (if this is a sensitive subject, feel free to not respong).  Why exactly did Rollerball and Stormtrooper leave?  I too will miss them and their contributions for the SimViation and FS community. Embarrassed
 

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Reply #23 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:01pm

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Rollerball did not leave because Fli-Girl was a conman. He left because mods treated him like crap, he was mistreated by the ones he looked upon as friends, not because of some dumb internet troll.
He was a renowned user who actually KNOWS something here, and contributes on a regular basis.

I wold not call that "be on top of things".
He called the scam and you were on him like vultures, but you now say you actually knew he was right?

Interesting, though abit contradicting I must say, since it was a moderator who "slated" him the worst.

More cooks means a worse soup...old swedish saying.

Good night all.




 
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Reply #24 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:02pm

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Quote:
 Why exactly did Rollerball and Stormtrooper leave?


B777,

Not to drag this out too much ........ since I expect this whole thread likely will be deleted very soon.... it is all basically "dirty laundry".....and it is close to time to throw it in the washer.

Why?  At the core..... because some idiot decided it would be "fun" to play the troll bit...... and screw up some people's friendships and a comfortable place to hang out.


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 I too will miss them and their contributions for the SimViation and FS community. Embarrassed


Every legitimate and sincere member of SimV contributes to the community.... and it is a loss to see anyone leave over such stuff and in such a manner.

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Reply #25 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:08pm

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Nexus you are totally wrong on this and I am going to bed!

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Reply #26 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:12pm

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Nexus you are totally wrong on this and I am going to bed!

Goodnight!

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Thanks now I'm convinced  Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:18pm

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but you now say you actually knew he was right?


Nexus,

Actually...... we still do not know all of the details and truth.  Likely we will never know.  Knowing is a difficult thing.  Suspecting is very easy.

But it was only shortly before the "wildfire" that we had finally amassed enough information and evidence that we were certain enough to take really firm action.

Some concrete and highly "to the point" action was taken directly and privately with Fli-Girl immediately before this unfortunate siutiation went "bad" out on the public forum.

This is all that I will say on this because it is all that I feel is appropriate.  I am sorry that you feel that this was not handled in the manner you might wish.  Maybe you should PM Pete about it.


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Reply #28 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:46pm

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You protected the wrong guy.
You protected the scammer to the last minute, but did not hestitate to bash Rollerball.

Is that what you get when being honest and straightforward  ???
Because that's what happened here. Roller said what most of you suspected, you cannot deny that.
But what did he get for that?
He got whipped, that's what happened...and thats's why I am sad and upset.

 
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Reply #29 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 10:54pm

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Hey Nexus, I think it's time to let it drop...  I understand that you're upset about what happened and I agree that losing Roger and Stormtropper is bad, but it is over and time to move on.  Hopefully, those members will choose to return, but I don't think that arguing back and forth like this is really good for anyone.  Please rest assured that every mod on this board is playing the situation over and over in his head to see what their part in this was and learning from it to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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