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Sep 11^th, 2004 at 2:05am

Gary R. Offline
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nVidia 5700 @ 256 megs, Radeon 9600 XT @ 128 megs, or Radeon 9800 @ 256 megs? Currently have radeon 9200 se. Don't like it. Had bad luck with radeons in the past but owned two nvidias and never had a problem at all. Which one of my three choiices would you guys recommend?

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Reply #1 - Sep 11^th, 2004 at 11:19am

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1.R9800 256MB (assuming it is not an SE model)
2.R9600xt 128MB
3.FX5700 256MB

That is the performance order.

Generally avoid SE models of the Radeon range, they are low bandwidth budget models, this means low performance.

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Reply #2 - Sep 11^th, 2004 at 7:58pm

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The 9800XT. See the ratings.

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Reply #3 - Sep 11^th, 2004 at 8:24pm

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None of the above. If your looking for low cost preformance, go with the Geforce 6600GT. The AGP version should be comming out soon. It's been getting very good reviews. It's rumored to blow all Radeon 9000 and Geforce FX series cards away. It's also supposed to out preform ATI's X600. It will retail for $200US. It may not be as good as the 6800 or X800 but it's pretty close for the cost.

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Reply #4 - Sep 11^th, 2004 at 9:18pm

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Which one of my three choiices would you guys recommend?

Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit

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Reply #5 - Sep 12^th, 2004 at 1:32am

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What is better? The Nvidia 6800 GT or ATI X800?

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Reply #6 - Sep 12^th, 2004 at 7:28am

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Which X800? the GT is better than the X800pro. The GT has a full 16pipes as opposed to the pro's 12pipes. Also nearly all 6800GT's I have seen clocked to Ultra speeds with no problems thus making them even better still.

Think Nvidia have the IQ sorted now so realy its which ever card you prefer, I would go the GT route and overclock it myself.

As for the original question I would go for the 9800 card either Pro or XT version (the XT being the best).

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Reply #7 - Sep 12^th, 2004 at 12:23pm

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Or just wait a month for the 6600GT - much quicker than any 9800 and cheaper! Wink

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Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2004 at 1:05am

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Well, I'm rather limited to what I cantrade up to for the money I have. With trade on my 9200 I can have the 5700 nVidia for $60. $80 and up for the 9600xt or the 9800 256. I guess what it reall boils down to is will the 5700 nVidia allow me to get my sliders far enough right so I can have my mesh detail uusefull enough for navigation? I don't need full time outrageous 30 + fps. I'd be happy to average 24 fps and am willing to tolerate high teens on final at jfk, ord, atl or other busy ones. So, will the 5700 allow me that given my system specs below?

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Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2004 at 8:38am

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I don't need full time outrageous 30 + fps. I'd be happy to average 24 fps and am willing to tolerate high teens on final at jfk, ord, atl or other busy ones. So, will the 5700 allow me that given my system specs below?

I have a 9800XT. With the machine specs on the trailer below.... I'd be VERY happy to even get solid high teens in those short final conditions at a big airport. When the heavy AI is around.... it is more about the CPU and the RAM and the fsb than it is the video card, me thinks.

I run most sliders maxed... but not all.

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............john

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Reply #10 - Sep 15^th, 2004 at 7:25pm

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The 5700 is not the best card by Nvidia, what about a 5900, these can be tickled to a 5950 apparently. My mate has the 5900, he plays Quake online & he is really chuffed with it . He has had 2 radeon 9800, both could not handle it & were barbequed!. I am really chuffed with my FX5600 ultra. If I had the money I would go for a 6800ultra. apparently the 12 pipe 6800 can be tickled to open the other 4 pipes, which would make it a 6800GT. The information I have provided is only heresay, but reliable heresay!!!!

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Reply #11 - Sep 15^th, 2004 at 8:10pm

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i just bought myself a radeon 9800 xt (the ultimate 9800 Grin

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), and i love it!!!!

i searched a LOT for the latest video card (it's very hard to keep track of them as a new one comes out every week or so...) and found the 9800 xt to be the best bang for my buck...

my graphics in FS are almost maxed out and she's still running with good above-15 fps

the thing is... if you buy a mid-end card now, you'll probably regret it later when an even more demanding game comes your way...

happened to me...

anyways... my two cents here

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Reply #12 - Sep 15^th, 2004 at 10:29pm

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the thing is... if you buy a mid-end card now, you'll probably regret it later when an even more demanding game comes your way...

happened to me...

anyways... my two cents here

c ya

Moach

Well the 9800 in general has already become a mid-range card (or at least well on its way) and is sinking on the list almost daily. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT you did make the right choice and bought the right 9800 model...the XT.

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Reply #13 - Sep 16^th, 2004 at 10:07am

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ANY piece of hardware that you buy for a computer is headed for the junkpile the minute you hand that cash to the clerk. Wink

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You just have to accept that....... or you'll neve be happy with anything. Wink

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You'll never have "the latest and greatest" for very long.

What is important is the enjoyment you get from it. Let's say that a 9800 XT is the top of the heap on Jan 1... and is then becoming "long in the tooth" by Dec. 31st. And let's say you got it for $365 (for simplicity). If you replace it on the next Jan 1........ it cost you $1 a day to enjoy it's services. Not too bad really.

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..................john

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Reply #14 - Sep 16^th, 2004 at 7:19pm

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Well funny you break in down like that John...cuz that's basically what happened to me. I bought a 9800 pro last July for $400. I replaced it with a GeForce 6800GT last Sunday...for $400 LOL. Thats close to $1 a day haha.

Just wasn't happy with the card anymore and after pollishing off my system with a couple upgrades, it became my last bottleneck. So now I'm running smooth and in good shape. Grin

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Haha I love having a younger brother that is always willing to buy my "old" computer hardware from me. Grin

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