Simviation Forum - World War II

Aug 29^th, 2004 at 3:26am

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This is actually three days early, but this marks the 65^th anniversary of the beginning of the second World War. Ju 87Bs (probably B-2s) of I Gruppe/Stukageschwader 2 rained bombs on Polish airfields, beginning the Blitzkrieg, and the war itself. Germany issues a statement that Polish forces fired upon German forces, and Germany followed likewise. No one really cared what other countries said, because they didn't lose six years later. Tongue

So here we stand today, with toys with funny names, like Spitfires, Stukas and MiGs, oh my! Cheesy

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Reply #1 - Aug 30^th, 2004 at 12:27pm

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The reason for the german attack which began with a german battleship attacking polish coastal installations was a faked raid on a german radio station.
But we still have a little more than one day to go,Scorp. Wink

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Reply #2 - Aug 30^th, 2004 at 1:57pm

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He did preface with the "three days early"...

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Reply #3 - Aug 30^th, 2004 at 2:46pm

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Crap....

...reading a gift that should be given to everyone... Tongue

...silly me. Undecided

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Reply #4 - Aug 30^th, 2004 at 4:34pm

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The reason for the german attack which began with a german battleship attacking polish coastal installations was a faked raid on a german radio station.
But we still have a little more than one day to go,Scorp. Wink

I thought it was a heavy cruiser. Germany's battleships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) hadn't been finished by the outbreak of war.

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Reply #5 - Aug 30^th, 2004 at 7:12pm

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I thought it was a heavy cruiser. Germany's battleships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) hadn't been finished by the outbreak of war.

Propaganda machine at work

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Reply #6 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 6:55am

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I thought it was a heavy cruiser. Germany's battleships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) hadn't been finished by the outbreak of war.

Battleship,heavy cruiser...all the same to me...it swims it is armoured,it has guns. Dot.

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Reply #7 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 9:41am

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Battleship,heavy cruiser...all the same to me...it swims it is armoured,it has guns. Dot.

A couple of interesting readings are "Dreadnought" and "Castles of Steel". I always wondered the difference between "heavy cruisers" and "battleships".

While definitions vary by era, "typically" a cruiser has battleship armament (heavy guns 12-15 inc) but less armour than a comparable battleship, making it faster than a battleship, but more prone to battledamage (and I'm thinking Beatty at Jutland here)

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Reply #8 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 11:14am

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Your thinking Battle-Cruisers there Felix. A Cruiser is smaller, has smaller armament and slightly less armour so to ensure a higher top speed. HMS Suffolk (Cruiser) in WWII was armed with 8 8inch guns for her main armament and 12-16 4inch guns as secondary. HMS Hood (Battle-Cruiser) had 8 15inch guns as her main armament and 12 6 inch guns as secondary.

Basically a Battle-Cruiser is a battleship with out the armour. A cruiser is a larger and more heavily armed than a Destroyer. Basically if a cruiser was to come across a Destroyer it would stand and fight. If it came across a battleship then it would run away.

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Reply #9 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 12:56pm

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Your thinking Battle-Cruisers there Felix. A Cruiser is smaller, has smaller armament and slightly less armour so to ensure a higher top speed. HMS Suffolk (Cruiser) in WWII was armed with 8 8inch guns for her main armament and 12-16 4inch guns as secondary. HMS Hood (Battle-Cruiser) had 8 15inch guns as her main armament and 12 6 inch guns as secondary.

Basically a Battle-Cruiser is a battleship with out the armour. A cruiser is a larger and more heavily armed than a Destroyer. Basically if a cruiser was to come across a Destroyer it would stand and fight. If it came across a battleship then it would run away.

Right - I was thinking battlecruisers (which is what Beatty commanded at Dogger Bank and Jutland). Thanks for the clarification.

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Reply #10 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 5:26pm

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Right - I was thinking battlecruisers (which is what Beatty commanded at Dogger Bank and Jutland). Thanks for the clarification.

Don't mention it. We've got to keep you infallible somehow. Wink

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