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Whats so "BIG" about the A380? (Read 886 times)
Aug 11th, 2004 at 5:33pm

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I have heard all of this talk about the A380...and to tell you the truth..it is just another aircraft...yes it is neat..and cool...but what can be diffrent about the A380..that differs it from Airbus's other fleet...for example..other thatn range and 2 more jets..the A330 and A340 are basically the same thing...actually other than a few mods all of airbus's 'newer' fleet are the same..so waht can differ...please tell me....
 
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Reply #1 - Aug 11th, 2004 at 5:41pm

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the fact that it has two decks could be the first defining feature. And while i am not a real fan of this aircraft, i also admit its certainly impressive in terms of size and passenger capacity.
 
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Reply #2 - Aug 11th, 2004 at 6:04pm

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It will be the biggest passenger aircraft in the world, utilizing the latest light-weight materials. It is a high risk project, which looks like it can be a huge success.
Don't know about the actual flightdeck, but Airbus will probably like to continue their CCQ policy.

But why not talk about it?
IMO, it is much more interesting than the 7E7.

Size matters, you know Wink
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 11th, 2004 at 6:27pm

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and interestingly, it's almost a copy of the proposed McDonnell-Douglas MD-12
 

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Reply #4 - Aug 11th, 2004 at 6:45pm

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Well the 747 engineers were also toying with 2 decks, so the idea isnt really new.

Aerodynamics never change, subsequently the A380 and proposed "2 deckers" looks similar. How else would you design an aircraft like that?
 
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Reply #5 - Aug 11th, 2004 at 7:58pm

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Not sure if it was true..but heard it was overweight..or something like that...
 
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Reply #6 - Aug 11th, 2004 at 9:35pm

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Aerodynamics never change, subsequently the A380 and proposed "2 deckers" looks similar. How else would you design an aircraft like that?


One of the proposals was for a double-bubble - side by side! A "super-wide" so to speak.

The double decker concept has been around for some time - from the flying boat era, through the Lockheed Constitution and especially the Boeing Stratocruiser.
 

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Reply #7 - Aug 12th, 2004 at 3:55am

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The double decker concept has been around for some time - from the flying boat era, through the Lockheed Constitution and especially the Boeing Stratocruiser.

Not forgetting the good old London Transport omnibus. Plenty of room on top. Hold very tightly - ting ting.....! Wink

There are very few original design concepts that haven't been thought of & used before.
 

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Reply #8 - Aug 12th, 2004 at 4:17am

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yes the A380 is overweight. Its part of the reason virgin have delayed delivery, so they can reduce the weight of their interiors, plus the fact airports still wont be ready for it on the whole
 
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Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2004 at 5:25am

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The A380, is just a murderer, it is because of that plane and many other large airliners that Concorde is no longer with us Sad
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Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2004 at 3:33pm

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It is "big" with all these American Boeing hating countries who want a challenger for the 747.
 

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Reply #11 - Aug 28th, 2004 at 5:47am
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You know its so strange, Loads of my freinds (non fs and aviation) have seen pictures of the A380, with its casino's, cinemas and bars and think this will be the case with all airlines. They find it hard to belive when I explain to them that on 99 out of 100 airlines will have the entire aircraft packed with seats. Im sure this is the case with many people aswell. If British Airways is flying to JFK on a 747 and Virgin is doing the same but on a A380, a large amout of people will go out of thier way just to have a go on the gym on the top deck! Dont know if this is helpfull to this convo, Probably not but hey!

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Reply #12 - Aug 28th, 2004 at 8:06am

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It is "big" with all these American Boeing hating countries who want a challenger for the 747.


Could you develop that theory?
Boeing hating or not, the 747 looks puny compared to it.
 
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Reply #13 - Aug 28th, 2004 at 8:15am

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It is "big" with all these American Boeing hating countries who want a challenger for the 747.


That's competition for you - the last thing anyone needs is a Boeing monopoly...

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Reply #14 - Sep 1st, 2004 at 3:38pm

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Reply #15 - Sep 1st, 2004 at 4:14pm

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You know its so strange, Loads of my freinds (non fs and aviation) have seen pictures of the A380, with its casino's, cinemas and bars and think this will be the case with all airlines. They find it hard to belive when I explain to them that on 99 out of 100 airlines will have the entire aircraft packed with seats. Im sure this is the case with many people aswell. If British Airways is flying to JFK on a 747 and Virgin is doing the same but on a A380, a large amout of people will go out of thier way just to have a go on the gym on the top deck! Dont know if this is helpfull to this convo, Probably not but hey!

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At the beginning, the 747 was touted with a walkup piano bar, lounges etc.  American Airlines did have something like that early on, but it quickly faded out.

I foresee that few, if any A380s will have the "amenities", at least, at "Y" class prices.


 

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Reply #16 - Sep 6th, 2004 at 6:29pm

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i think the A380 is just bragging rights for airbus, it may be economically beneficial, but with gyms, lounges and what not airlines may as well be buying two A340's and flying them half full.., but the idea of having bball tourneys 6 miles in the air is pretty awesome 8)

o yea what country is airbus based in?

 
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Reply #17 - Sep 7th, 2004 at 3:36am

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They are based in Europe, the main factory is in France, but they cant be called a French company Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #18 - Sep 8th, 2004 at 9:55pm

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Reply #19 - Oct 17th, 2004 at 6:14pm

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Airbus is a consortium of mainly German, French, British and (I think) Italian companies, with the pieces flown to Toulouse in France and assembled there, or in Hamburg, Germany.

I was in Nantes, France last week where they make some of the pieces, and I saw a Beluga transporter there, waiting to take some of the pieces for assembly. Huge thing.

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So what's with the A350 then? It sounds as if it'll be something like a modified A330.

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Reply #20 - Oct 17th, 2004 at 6:34pm

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So what's with the A350 then? It sounds as if it'll be something like a modified A330

it is. Airbus with all the talk about how the 7E7 was no threat to them, forgot to look at the facts and when they did they realised alot of companies were "very" interested in the 7E7. The A350 is a huge mistake on Airbuses part, if the A380 bombs for whatever reason, then airbus will be in a huge financial problem.
 
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Reply #21 - Oct 17th, 2004 at 7:35pm

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Now now, calm down, this seems to be bordering on a flame war.

The A380 has a tailplane the size of a 737's wings. That is big but I, like many, would never fly on a plane packed with more than 500 other people. The real challenge is going to be finding airports large enough for it, not many exist. I doubt many an airport will spend the money on expanding for so little gain as well. I, being very concerned about the environment, am biased towards smaller and more efficient aircraft like the 7E7 (which is designed with efficiency in mind) so you won't hear a word of good about the A380 from me.
 

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