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Jul 12th, 2004 at 1:39pm

Corbin   Offline
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Hi: My throttle on my Logtech Wingman Extreme works fine on single engine aircraft and has worked great on WWII programs like IL2.  However, several times now when running engines on aircraft with engines two and over....the throttle will only advance power to a single engine?  I have calibrated the joystick several times...without any results.  Its hard to control a Lear Jet or 747 with the power full tilt on one side and idle power on the other! Shocked  Has anyone else experienced this?
The only way I have been able to correct the problem is ESC from the flight and re-start.   ???
Any help would be greatly appreciated.....I love FS2004.....fantastic!
 

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Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 1:54pm

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Hi jcorbin. Maybe this explains it.

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On multiengine aircraft, engine commands affect all engines unless you first select an engine by pressing  E + engine number (1-4). To revert back to controlling all engines,  press E + all engine numbers in quick succession (E, 1, 2, and so on).
 

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Reply #2 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 2:01pm

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Thanks Hagar......I haven't been doing that.......will give it a try tonight when I get home and let you know how it works.  I really appreciate the help!   8)
 

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Reply #3 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 3:30pm

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Here is another, and I think more efficient way...

Goto Settings/Options
Select the following in order...
    Assignments
    Joystick Axes Tab
    Normal Flight Button (should already be selected)
    Joystick Type (if not already selected to your wingman)

Within the list of selectable features, you'll see the following...

Engine 1 Mixture Axis
Engine 1 Propeller Axis
Engine 1 Throttle Axis
Engine 2 ...
etc

Keep going down the list.

Down at the bottom of the list is a general Throttle Axis selection. This will allow you to control all engines on one throttle.

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Reply #4 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 3:40pm

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my wing man (Same as topic posters) throttle only makes the ingame throttle go 3/4 when I push the joystick throttle in all the way.
 
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Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 4:32pm

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I assume you've tried re-calibrating... Have you checked your sensitivities?
 

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Reply #6 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 5:18pm

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Thanks Joe (Skittles) I will give the Settings/Options that you suggest a try.  Thank you for the information.  Will let you know how it works.  8)

Hanzaki_Mishima....I have the same problem with the Wingman....throttle will only advance to 3/4 power at times.  Its probibly a re-calibration problem or senstivities problem as Skittles suggests.  You can however overide your Wingman throttle....if necessary by hitting F4 which is the "Full Power Setting" when the key board is used as a flight controler....at least it works for me.   Smiley
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 12th, 2004 at 10:50pm

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I do that but, it only stays that way a couple of seconds, and then goes back.
 
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Reply #8 - Jul 13th, 2004 at 2:13am

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The only other thing I can think of is, is it USB and on a hub? Some devices don't work well on hubs.

Other than that, I can't help since I don't have a Wingman. Sorry.

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Reply #9 - Jul 13th, 2004 at 11:42am

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Skittles....I think mine is on a "hub"...meaning a cereal port adapter to a USB port? If so mine has that type of adapter...do you think this could be the problem with my joystick?  It gets very erattic at times and seems to completely go out of control, even though it has just been calibrated!   Angry  You may have found all the problems that I have been having.  I think its time to purchase a new joystick....what do you have onn your system and what would you recomend?  Thank you once more for all of your help.  Is there a "Premium" joystick out there?   8)
 

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Reply #10 - Jul 13th, 2004 at 12:40pm

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I have mine on USB...... and I don't have enough money to buy a new joystick.
 
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Reply #11 - Jul 13th, 2004 at 7:57pm

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Skittles....I think mine is on a "hub"...meaning a cereal port adapter to a USB port? If so mine has that type of adapter...do you think this could be the problem with my joystick?  It gets very erattic at times and seems to completely go out of control, even though it has just been calibrated!   Angry  You may have found all the problems that I have been having.  I think its time to purchase a new joystick....what do you have onn your system and what would you recomend?  Thank you once more for all of your help.  Is there a "Premium" joystick out there?   8)


Never heard of a "serial port adapter to a USB port". I understand that your stick is a 15 pin (PC) connector, connected to an adapter which pulgs into the USB? How interesting. You adapter is not a hub. A hub is kind of like a router. I can plug 8 devices into a hub, or 7 devices and another hub. That's called daisy chaining. I currently have 4 hubs. Hub 4 goes into 3, 3 into 2, 2 into 1 and 1 into the computer. Hubs 1, 2 & 3 can connect 7 devices (one is the other hub) and #4 takes 8 devices. You could also connect hubs 2, 3 and 4 into 1. However you want to work it.

I have a CH Prod. Flight Yoke for PC connection and an LE for USB connection. I also have a Saitek X45 Joystick with throttle. The LE and X45 are connected directly to the computer since I have 6 USB ports available. All 22 of my GoFlight modules, TrackIR2, Palm Pilot, etc are connected through my 4 Belkin hubs.

As for what I recommend? I fell in love with the X45. It's cheap and very functional and sturdy. A whole lot better than the Thrustmaster F-22 I was using. As far as yokes, the best I've found in quality and price is CH Products' yokes.

Hanzaki_Mishima,
A USB stick is fine. If you have it connected directly into your computer, you might consider contacting the manufacturer. My CH Products Flight Yoke LE was having Y-axis problems and CH told me to send it in for repairs.

Hope, I didn't bore you  too much by rambling.

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Reply #12 - Jul 14th, 2004 at 12:39pm

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Skittles, sounds like you have a great set up!  I was looking at the Saitek X45.....going to get one today and give it a try tonight.  Yes, my current joystick (Logtech) came with a special 15pin serial port to USB port adapter, crazy huh?  I purchased the Logtech just before USB port type joysticks were numerous on the market.  At any rate I think its time to up-grade....I will let you know how the X45 works.  The "Hub" explanation was very educational....and now I know what the darn things are thanks to you.  Smiley  Thank you so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated.   8)

Hanzaki_Mishima....hang in there any joystick is better then using the keyboard!
 

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Reply #13 - Jul 14th, 2004 at 12:51pm

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About the X45, I found it just a tad bit tricky to learn how to program the buttons, but once you get the hang of it, you'll be amazed!
 

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Reply #14 - Jul 14th, 2004 at 1:08pm

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Thanks Skittles......remember your talking to a guy who didn't know what a "hub" was or for that matter how to spell serial correctly!  However I will read the instructions front to back and give it the old "college try".

Should be fun...even if it takes a little time away from flying the sim....I guess I can stay away from FS2004 for a little while!   8)
 

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