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Reply #15 - Jun 25th, 2004 at 8:36pm

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Oh I can't be sure sure about the 777 (I rarely fly it), so I'm the wrong guy to ask how to actually fly it
However as a 'coincidence', I happen to have the 777 aircraft manual, though a bit out dated but landing speeds should still be the same  Smiley
I blurred the company logo, we wanna be neutral here!  Grin

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During the approach, if you are flying by using runway guidance lights (PAPI or VASI), avoid to follow the 2-bar VASI belowe 300ft, since it's such a big difference between the eye reference path and the gear path of the long 777. The result is a low threshold crossing landing and is not preferable (no kidding?  Roll Eyes )

Flare should start at 20ft RA (hope you have a Radio altitude gauge  Wink) by increasing the pitch of some 2 degrees, touchdown attitude of 4-5 degrees is apparantly considered normal. Smiley

Good luck with flying the 777, technically wise it's an awesome aircraft.
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Reply #16 - Jun 26th, 2004 at 12:38am

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Im sure there are some payware autoland systems ot there, Nexus should know.


The PMDG 737NGs come with full autoland capabilities.  In my opinion, that aircraft is the best payware add-on out there and well worth the money.

However, learning the full function capabilities and how to use them takes a lot of time and effort.  It is a very complex aircraft, basically as close to real life 737s as the flight sim parameters will allow.  So basically, although this add-on has autoland, to answer your question vannpenguin123, no it really is not that easy.

I still have yet to use the autoland function on the PMDG.  I just love manual approaches too much...no need for that.  I turn autopilot on at around 1000 feet, or at appropriate parts of the departure procedure and I let the plane flight itself down to the approach phase and normally take over manually somewhere near the initial approach fix when doing an ILS approach.  I never even touch the "approach hold" function anymore.  I turn off the autopilot before that becomes necessary, or I just use the autopilot to decend to altitudes designated on the approach plates at each fix.

You really should learn to land it manually.  There was a time I let the autopilot do most of the work on landings, but once I finally "mastered" landings, I find it just too much fun than to let the plane do it itself.
 

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Reply #17 - Jun 26th, 2004 at 7:44am

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Of course you won't use autoland in sunny California  Grin

But try to fly in the alps when the clouds will follow you down to the runway tarmac. You can't see a thing, and I am not too fond of letting the aircraft crash into a mountain. Smiley  (already done that too many times...)

If you don't like mountains, go visit England, they always have crappy weather anyways Grin


Silver is right regarding the PMDG 737package, it's awesome, but takes awhile to grasp though.
 
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Reply #18 - Jun 26th, 2004 at 11:30am

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Of course you won't use autoland in sunny California  Grin

But try to fly in the alps when the clouds will follow you down to the runway tarmac. You can't see a thing, and I am not too fond of letting the aircraft crash into a mountain. Smiley  (already done that too many times...)

If you don't like mountains, go visit England, they always have crappy weather anyways Grin


Silver is right regarding the PMDG 737package, it's awesome, but takes awhile to grasp though.


Always catching my flaws, Nexus... Sad


Well, I have a pretty big feeling vannpenguin123 wasn't in search of an autoloand system because of flying through treacherous terrain.  Wink

But as for me, I'm not even sure if any airport exists in the United States with an approach you just described, let alone California haha...Maybe Alaska, but yeah...nothing I do in flight sim requires an autoloand of any sort...except maybe weather.  But until I beef up my system so that I don't lose 15+ FPS in weather bad enough for what we are talking about (especially while using the PMDG which is hard enough on the system at times), I won't be flying in bad weather often enough.  I'll stick to sunny California... Tongue Grin Wink
 

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Reply #19 - Jun 26th, 2004 at 11:49am

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I'd pay an arm and a leg just to live in CA...but the weather isn't really as dynamic as in Sweden I assume. Smiley
The only fog you have to worry about is the smog from autos Wink

Colorado might have some interesting mountain approaches, they got some rockies up there at least Smiley
 
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Reply #20 - Jun 26th, 2004 at 10:29pm

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The San Francisco Bay gets the routine morning marine layer fog that extends as far down as SJC, often putting a damper on the morning air traffic.  However, it normally burns off by 10 or 11 AM. 

SJC currently has no ILS system operational.  It is down while they extend runway 30L.  All arrivals and departures are using 30R which only has a VOR/DME approach.  Not sure how bad the AM fog has been affecting traffic there so far.  Delays are routine at SFO however.
 

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Reply #21 - Jun 28th, 2004 at 11:45am

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hey nexus!
We don't always have crappy weather in the uk. We have had alot of heat waves lately
Wednesday we are having a small heat wave from spain.
 
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Reply #22 - Jun 28th, 2004 at 11:51am

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Yeah and yesterday we had a downpour  Grin .

To be totally honest, I would rather live in antarctica than the UK.
It can be nice and sunny, but it doesnt last very long  Embarrassed .

Be grateful though, at least the UK catches most of the rain before it gets to the continent.

 
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