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Jun 18^th, 2004 at 1:22am

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dear all,

how can i land a boeing jet on a runway which doesn't provide ILS?

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Reply #1 - Jun 18^th, 2004 at 1:29am

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Try to put 'er down with a visual approach maybe? Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Jun 18^th, 2004 at 2:21am

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How do i land a Boing on a runway that doesn't provide ILS?

with a good visibility Grin

but also,
on an IFR flight plan, the controller will give you directions to the runway untill you're close enough to have it in sight.
when you're there he'll ask you to report runway in sight and then, hand you off to the control tower

but if you're flying VFR or just joyriding, my advice is:
approach the runway from as far as you can, boeings are heavy and require a lot of room to manauver, also, watch your approach speed, 140kts for the 737, 170kts for the 777 or 747

before you hit the runway, arm the autospoilers (Shift+/) so the extend when you touch down

and mostly:
pay attention to the glideslope indicator lights
(those are a line of four lights perpendicular to the beggining of the runway)
they'll guide you to the correct approach path
works like this:

all white - you're too high
1 red 3 white - you're a little high
2 red 2 white - you're on the correct glideslope
3 red 1 white - you're a little low
all red - you're too low

hope it helps
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Reply #3 - Jun 18^th, 2004 at 8:13am

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Although this is a non precision for the 737, it works fairly well for the larger Boeings as well.

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Reply #4 - Jun 18^th, 2004 at 9:14am

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And if you have no PAPI lights, its just a question of practice and getting the feel of the plane.

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Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2004 at 6:00pm

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how can i land a boeing jet on a runway which doesn't provide ILS?

It's called flying by the seat of your pants! Grin

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Reply #6 - Jun 19^th, 2004 at 9:38pm

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Hi

You can land any jet on any runway,as long as it's long enough,without using radios and beacons. But, you gotta do a cupla preliminaries first. Before u get to wherever ur going call up the map and get the altitude of your destination airport and the exact heading of the tarmac. Then, keep in mind the "rule of three" for example if your cruise altitude is 30,000 ft multiply that by 3 which equals 90 nm which is the least possible distance for you to start ur descent at ruffly 1800 ft per minute. To be safe start your descent at about 110 - 120 nms. Keep the a/c ruffly level while dropping down with a combination of throttle and trim. When u can see the tarmac at about 10 miles you'll have to make some small adjustments of heading provided you were on the correct heading at the start of your descent. Full flaps - gear down at about distance 5 miles. Nose up a smidgen and cut the power about 10 feet above the runway. Spoilers will activate automatically if prearmed. Use your brakes to get u down to a comfortable taxi speed to the ramp.

Cheers / Nek

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Reply #7 - Jun 20^th, 2004 at 11:47pm

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another tactic, if it is a fairly significant airport-

this involves programming a GPS approach, so youre gonna have to be somewhat familiar with it.

hit PROC on the module. in there, if the airport is significant enough, it should have pre-programmed GPS approaches to given runways at your destination airport. know which runway you are going to land on, and use the arrows to select that approach. on the next screen, if you are already on approach and no longer have NAV hold engaged, select "Activate vectors-to-final". if NAV hold is still on, then select-uhh, crap-umm, the other one. then, when NAV hold is no longer engaged, activate it. now, when its activated, MAKE SURE THE NAV/GPS SWITCH IS SET TO GPS. then, engage NAV hold and ur plane will stay centered on the runway and you can concentrate on the glideslope. if u have any questions, please tell me.

and if there are no approaches to your destination runway there are two things you can do-

a)if there are other approaches for runways you can safely land on, try to request that approach and that runway for landing from ATC

b) and if no plausible approaches are programmed, youll be landin full visual

personally, landing a heavy deadstick never really appealed to me.

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