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Jun 3rd, 2004 at 11:47am

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Well I just came across this bit of info and thought it might interest some of the Mosquito lovers out there (courtesy of my buddy Frank in Aus.)...
Many have said it couldn't be done. Many others have said that it could be done, but it wouldn't be done because no one person would have the determination to stick out such a huge undertaking. And here we see a brand new, late production de Havilland Mosquito fuselage.
It has indeed been done…magnificently! Glyn Powell of Auckland, New Zealand has produced the first new de Havilland Mosquito fuselage to be built since World War Two. Perhaps this needs some explanation!
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Reply #1 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 2:04pm

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I have read bits and bobs about this project, but this is the first pic I've seen. There is a guy in Canada working to return a late production Mosquito to flight, but this new build could really open the door for others to follow. Lets hope so.
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 2:24pm

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I have read bits and bobs about this project, but this is the first pic I've seen. There is a guy in Canada working to return a late production Mosquito to flight, but this new build could really open the door for others to follow. Lets hope so.



Can you just see the "new" Mossie with a pair of P&W PT-6 engines instead of the Merlins?
 

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Reply #3 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 3:30pm

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Glyn Powell of Auckland, New Zealand has produced the first new de Havilland Mosquito fuselage to be built since World War Two.

Not sure this is quite accurate Mark.
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Production did not end in Britain until late 1950.
http://www.aviation-history.com/dehavilland/mosquito.html


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Can you just see the "new" Mossie with a pair of P&W PT-6 engines instead of the Merlins?

Please no. Whatever next? That would be sacrilege. Shocked
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 3:45pm

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Can you just see the "new" Mossie with a pair of P&W PT-6 engines instead of the Merlins?



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Please no. Whatever next? That would be sacrilege. Shocked



Hi Doug...!
That big hole in the nose begs for a lovely Pratt and Whitney Double Wasp R-2800-59 radial engine... 8)...!
...suit me, Sir... Grin...!

LOL...!

Cheers all... Grin...!

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Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 3:50pm

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Hi Doug...!
That big hole in the nose begs for a lovely Pratt and Whitney Double Wasp R-2800-59 radial engine... 8)...!
...suit me, Sir... Grin...!

LOL...!

Cheers all... Grin...!

Paul.

Why not go the whole hog? Chop that graceful pointy tail end off & stick a gas turbine in the hole. You would end up with a DH Vampire. Roll Eyes Tongue
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 4:24pm

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Radial and jet engines on a Mossie. A crime Angry
 

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Reply #7 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 5:35pm

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Jets on a Mossie? Surely thats a Canberra? Grin
 

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Reply #8 - Jun 3rd, 2004 at 8:22pm

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Jets on a Mossie? Surely thats a Canberra? Grin


The analogy is apt in more ways than one.  Unless I'm mistaken, that was the idea - a jet powered "Mossie"
 

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Reply #9 - Jun 5th, 2004 at 6:51am

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Reply #10 - Jun 5th, 2004 at 9:25am

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Not sure this is quite accurate Mark.

Please no. Whatever next? That would be sacrilege. Shocked


Winglets?
 

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Reply #11 - Jun 5th, 2004 at 9:35am

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Give it a stars and stripes paint scheme and send it hurtling round some pylons at Reno? Roll Eyes
 

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Give it a stars and stripes paint scheme and send it hurtling round some pylons at Reno? Roll Eyes



With contraprops on souped up Griffons and a small inverted fishbowl canopy?

 

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Reply #13 - Jul 10th, 2004 at 4:48pm

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Why make the thing out of wood?  I had thought the only reason for that was shortage of materials and that it was an older design.  Surely they could make a metal skin for it...   ???
 

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Reply #14 - Jul 10th, 2004 at 5:01pm

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Why make the thing out of wood?  I had thought the only reason for that was shortage of materials and that it was an older design.  Surely they could make a metal skin for it...   ???

It wouldn't be a Mossie it was made of metal. That would mean a complete redesign as it used an unconventional method of construction. The later DH.103 Hornet was a single-seater fighter based on the Mossie but smaller. http://www.vflintham.demon.co.uk/aircraft/hornet/hornet.htm
It retained the wooden fuselage but had wings of mixed construction, with a wood and metal internal structure, an undersurface of reinforced Alcad, and a birch-ply upper skin. The Hornet was the first aircraft to feature "wood bonded to metal" construction, using a new "Redux" adhesive.

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To cover the wing structure and add strength, de Havilland woodworkers built two top wing skins and one bottom skin using birch plywood. The top skins had to carry the heaviest load so the designers also beefed them up with birch or Douglas fir stringers cut into fine strips and glued and screwed between the two skins. The bottom skin was also reinforced with stringers. Together the top and bottom skins multiplied the strength of the internal spars and ribs. A Mosquito wing could withstand rigorous combat maneuvering at high G-loads when the airplane often carried thousands of additional pounds of fuel and weapons. To maintain strength, trim weight, and speed fabrication time, the entire wing was finished as a single piece, wingtip to wingtip, with no break where the wing bisected the fuselage. A finished and painted wing was light and strong with a smooth surface unblemished by drag-inducing nail or rivet heads.

De Havilland engineers and technicians used generally the same techniques to build the Comet, Albatross, and Mosquito wings out of wood and plywood. When they designed and built the fuselage, however, they copied the methods and materials employed to build the Albatross fuselage. This airliner was the product of the brilliant mind of Arthur E. Hagg, de Havilland's Chief Draftsman in 1937. He left the company that same year but his ideas lived on in the Mosquito. Hagg created a light, strong, very streamlined structure by sandwiching 9.5 mm (three-eighths inch) Ecuadorian balsa wood between Canadian birch plywood skins that varied in thickness from 4.5 mm to 6 mm (about ¼ inch). The plywood/balsa/plywood sandwich was formed inside concrete molds of each fuselage half, and each mold held seven birch plywood formers reinforced with spruce blocks, plus bulkheads, floors, and other structural members. As the glue cured, metal clamps held the skin layers tight to the mold. Technicians finished the edge of each half of the fuselage with male and female wedge joints as fitters attached wiring and other equipment to the inner walls. Final fuselage assembly was reminiscent of a typical plastic model airplane kit as the two halves were glued and screwed together. Fabricators completed the final step in building the fuselage when they covered it with Mandapolam.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/dehavilland_mosquito.htm
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Reply #15 - Jul 11th, 2004 at 8:39am

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I'll try to find time to make a "Mossie Improvements" pack, then you can try out your ideas in FS!
 

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