Simviation Forum - performance

May 26^th, 2004 at 4:22am

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hello my friends..couple of questions..my specs are; hp p4 2.6speed,2gig ram,ati9800xt (latest drivers)

q1. my current pwr supply is 250w, will upgrading help heat performance?

q2. can i install new memory cards ddr 3000..can any type memory go in any computer as long as they all match?

q3. my rig runs at 78 to 81 c...isnt that too hot, and if so will it cause performance degradation (fps or stuttering)

i'm getting to the point where i'm gonna hock my lungs and buy an alienware area 51...any good....i hear pro and con

thanx
bob

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Reply #1 - May 26^th, 2004 at 4:33am

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I'm afraid I can't help. But is it a Dell?

I think with a reasonable system like that you may want to wait until all the new kit has come out this year - all sorts of interesting new bits are on the way - Unless you're desperate like I was!

Unless you see screen errors or have instability the Heat and PSU shouldn't be a problem. That is hot though Shocked

And I wouldn't expect your components to last long!

But if its a Dell there's not much you can do!

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Reply #2 - May 26^th, 2004 at 4:50am

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Which sensor is that temperature reading from?

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Reply #3 - May 26^th, 2004 at 11:19am

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hi-d..that temp reading is from the ati radion "overdrive" tab in the settings window.

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Reply #4 - May 26^th, 2004 at 3:10pm

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Bob

Speaking from past experiance, upgrade your psu, and install a second fan. ATI's generate a lot of heat, but are great,.

Check your mfr' specks as to the memory chips, and yes make sure they are of the same type, don't mix and match!

Reread your post and 2 gigs is fine, so I would start with the psu and fans first.

Have you had any problems yet?

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Reply #5 - May 26^th, 2004 at 3:32pm

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just installed the fan..$20..will wait on the psu..looking at buying a new athlon 64, with the new ati800 due out very soon......we'll see...thanx
bob

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Reply #6 - May 26^th, 2004 at 4:27pm

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oh man. i'd have a heart attack if my xomputer was ever that hot. right now my CPU is running at 32c. definatly do something fast about those temps.

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Reply #7 - May 26^th, 2004 at 5:05pm

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The ATi 9800xt temp sensor does not exist and it actually calculates it from the motherboard and compensates by adding 20C to it. I don't know why they did not implement them into the 9800xt like they did with the 9600xt, but just subtract 20C from the reading and you have the actual reading for the 9800xt, it is 58C not 78C.

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Reply #8 - May 27^th, 2004 at 12:05am

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thanx for the info hi-d...that does make me feel a little better....right now as i type this , its reading 72c so i guess its really 52c...when doing the sim thing, she goes up to 81c or as we now know 61c...sound better?

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Reply #9 - May 27^th, 2004 at 3:13am

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Where do you get all of this information form Hi-D? Its amazing - thank-you! Kiss

I'm not so worried about my temp now too.

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Reply #10 - May 27^th, 2004 at 7:57am

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I read it in a thread on guru3d. I am looking for the thread, but the forum is so active that a thread you read one day will be no where to see the next, i will keep a look out and post it here when/if i find it.

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Reply #11 - May 27^th, 2004 at 10:17am

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Hi Valo,

Q1. The output of the PSU has nothing to do with "heat performance". A 250w PSU is a tad weak considering your spec. Off the shelf 450w PSU's can be obtained readily, it's just a quick swap over as long as it's the standard size.

Q2. I can't imagine why you would want 3 gig of ram, unless you have some pretty serious rendering applications. 1 gig is more than enough RAM for just about anything.

Instead of quantity, look at quality in RAM, and learn how to set it up for speed.

Many newer chipsets take advantage of dual channel memory mode. You possibly have that type of hardware.

Dual Channel Mode (theoretically) widens memory bandwidth, but for it to work, you need to have pretty much identical RAM modules in a "pair" ONLY.

Two matched 512mb sticks of good quality overclocking RAM will get you a lot more performance than anything else.

Alienware (Area 51) put together hardware that works, there is no other advantage to owning one besides prestige in less informed circles............

You are on the right track with an AMD 64bit based system, the newest chipsets offer superb bandwidth.
The new video cards will be hard pressed to match their performance.

Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD

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