that was one hell of a lucky hit by the bismarck... straight in the ammo stores

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Alas, this is why Battlecruisers should not be sent against Battleships. They may have the same armament, but the armour is nothing like as thick.

I had a great uncle who served as a gunner on Hood. Fortunately for him, he was on leave when she went out hunting Bismarck.

But equipped with a vulnerable rudder. One torpedo fired from a flying piece of wood with strings and *bang* the best german battlecruiser is a turkey on display.  

Actually Felix, Bismarck was a Battleship. Both in class and design. The whole point of a Battlecruiser is armed reconisence for the main fleet of Battleships and they should never be commited to a duel against ships of equal firepower. Therefore fights with Battleships are a bit no no.

Bismarck was a battleship. Designed to fight battleships. Therefore she had the armour to protect herself from incoming fire. Hood however, was not armoured to nearly the same level. This meant that Hood was a good 5 knots faster than Bismarck but far more vulnerable for it.

Hood had just had a refit by 1940. This means she was pretty much state of the art for the 1940's. However, German rangefinders and optics were always superior to the British ones.


Exploder, the rudder is the most vulnerable part on any warship as it is impossible to protect or armour. Both Prince of Wales and Repulse were sunk in 1941 by japanise air attack and both of them suffered hits to their rudders that all but immobilised them.

If the shell went straight down the funnel I would assume that it would explode in the boiler, not the magazine.

Having said that a boiler explosion would be horrible enough.

It seems that the Admiralty knew of the dangers of Hood's poor protection as early as 1920.  They did nothing as was common with the British between the wars...

There is actually a growing body of evidence that Bismarck may not have sunk Hood, it may have been Prinz Eugen.

At the engagement range Bismarck's fire would have been going into Hood's armour belt, the lower calibre fire from PE would have been plunging from high angle.

It's not as unlikely as it sounds, American cruisers that were very similar to PE were capable of defeating Japanese ships that were similar to Hood, at very similar ranges. One on one a '20s BC or even BB could be taken by a '40s heavy cruiser...if it all worked out right.

I used to play out these types of engagements using "Action Stations" and found that if you could get a cruiser to the right range it had a very decent chance of winning. If the range was long though...run.

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You were right about Hood being bigger than Bismarck. But the difference was only 40 odd feet (Hood being 860 feet in length and Bismarck being 823).

Also, on the point of Prinz Eugen sinking Hood, it is very possible. Prinz Eugens 11" guns would have been more than capable of peircing Hoods unarmoured decks.

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Not a "lucky" hit - the German gunnery and optics was much better, and they were in the better tactical position.

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While no one will doubt that the Stringbag was obsolete, it was not "junk".  It served its purpose and more, and actually outlived its replacement (Albacore).  If you want to compare "junk", I would say it was more effective than the American torpedo bomber of the same period - the Devastator.

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There was a documentary about the Hood and Bismarck released by National Geographic. Well worth it, I was lucky enough to catch it on TV a few years back, if you guys ever get the chance, watch it

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Stratobat

Edit: I sometimes wonder if the Bismarck was scuttled!

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In the final analysis, does it matter whether the Bismarck's immediate sinking was due to it being scuttled or whether it had had "death blows" dealt by the British?  If it hadn't been scuttled, it simply would have struggled a bit more before being sunk by more shellling or torpedos.