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May 20th, 2004 at 1:57pm

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Not so much a forum suggestion, but perhaps a file library suggestion.

What about a section of downloads specifically for paint kits?

Repainting is quite popular in the sim community, and as we all know, publishers frequently release all white textures of their airplanes for us to play with.

But finding them is a nightmare most of the time.  A dedicated section would be a great addition, and a sure fire way to bring more traffic to the site!
 
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Reply #1 - May 20th, 2004 at 2:14pm

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Or you could just use the new improved search facility Scott Wink

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Reply #2 - May 20th, 2004 at 2:47pm

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Search is fine and dandy, except that you don't always know what parameters the author has set.

For example, I could search for "paintkit", and the author may have listed it as "all white".  Search for "all white" only to find the author has listed it as "base textures".  The list is endless.  Plus, I don't always know what model I'm looking for when I'm in the painting mood.

Not as easy as it may seem.
 
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Reply #3 - May 20th, 2004 at 3:02pm

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I think both of you should go "paint the town".....


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Reply #4 - May 20th, 2004 at 3:04pm

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Dave I've just broken the 10k barrier. I'm going to be doing some serious amounts of chocolate cake tonight Grin
 
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Quite the gossiper, aren't we  Grin   Grin

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Reply #6 - May 20th, 2004 at 3:27pm

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Maybe I should change my callsign to Talk2much Grin
 
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Reply #7 - May 20th, 2004 at 4:28pm

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I think "Upsidedown2much" would be more appropriate.
 
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Reply #8 - May 20th, 2004 at 4:33pm

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Still better than Hurl2much Grin
 
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Reply #9 - May 20th, 2004 at 4:33pm

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Actually I think it's a great idea.

Then ...

The next problem is just as you say - finding the damn things! & Like you say - what are the keywords?

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Reply #10 - May 20th, 2004 at 5:09pm

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wouldn't it be easier to add the word Paint Kit to the descriptiond as you come across them. then the search would pick them up, it also saves the need to sort the paint kits into props, civil jets, etc
 
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Reply #11 - May 20th, 2004 at 5:30pm

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You can actually "hide" search keywords by making the font colour the same as the bg colour. Done this way you can include many search keywords without making it readily apparent, which would allow for using codes instead of actual words.

For example:
PK9 Paint Kit for FS 2004 plane
AC8 Aircraft for FS 2002
UT6.5 Utility for CFS 1

Dump a search reference on the search page and you have a standardized search system. It would even be possible to add a drop down that would have plain text search terms that would enter the search codes into the search.

There I go making suggestions for more work for Pete again...time to hide. Smiley
 
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Reply #12 - May 20th, 2004 at 5:34pm

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Sounds like a great idea... Might also encourage a few people to try their hand at repainting.

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Reply #13 - May 20th, 2004 at 10:52pm

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No I think what Pete means is how would HE find them to move them to the new category.

This wouldn't at all be an easy process, admittedly.  Perhaps a temporary note somewhere on the forums or the upload page asking developers to identify the files which they've uploaded that are paint kits?  Then an additional note to downloaders asking that if they DL a file, to post it somewhere in the forums letting you know?

I dunno...there's gotta be a way.  lol  I'll help any way I can. Wink
 
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2004 at 12:48am

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I think the best thing would be for someone to manually go through all the aircraft downloads and write down the names of all the repaint files, and then forward it onto Pete. I think this may be a several person job however!

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Reply #16 - May 21st, 2004 at 12:34pm

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I will do it! At least part of it anyways. I love this place and would be proud to contribute to it anyway I can.
I will start as soon as I get word saying to go ahead.
Also let me know where to send the list of files and what information is needed (Just the file names or page numbers and sections?).


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Reply #17 - May 21st, 2004 at 12:44pm

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I'll take part also.  I'll need the same info.  lol

Kevin, we'll have to arrange which parts we're doing so we don't do the same ones.
 
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Reply #18 - May 21st, 2004 at 12:49pm

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Agreed.

Of course I just thought of something. This project may mean having to download every single plane on the site. I noticed that a few of the planes that I have downloaded come with a base textures folder in them. so do we list those as repaint kits? If so is there any way to tell if they have that folder without downloading them? It won't bother me either way as I have a cable connection and have no problems with speed.
Just thought I would point that out since we are seriously thinking about investing some time in this.

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Reply #19 - May 22nd, 2004 at 12:23am

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You had to go and make more work, didn't you?  lol

I'm also on BB, but I don't want to download EVERYTHING.  lol

 
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Reply #20 - May 22nd, 2004 at 8:13am

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Grin  Yep, thats me. Just ask my wife!   Grin

Really though, we would not have to download every file. Anything that is a repaint would not have to be downloaded and texture fixes, airfile updates/tweaks.
I know it is gonna be alot of work but there is no reason to do it at all if we are not gonna get it done right.
Here is another question. Are we gonna do it for just FS9 stuff or also 2002? Personally I do not see any reason to do this for anything previous to 2002. Also what about CFS? I am really not familiar with the CFS stuff. I own CFS2 but have only played it like twice. Is there a need for this to be done for  the CFS sections? If so then no problem, I will help there too.
Just throwing some questions out there.

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Reply #21 - May 22nd, 2004 at 1:14pm

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Well, I also have CFS2, but I rarely play it.  Maybe someone who is more active in that part of the community would be willing to do it.

We could start with FS9, then move on to 2k2...
 
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Reply #22 - May 22nd, 2004 at 2:07pm

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I have downloaded huge numbers of aircraft for CFS2 but I cant say that I have noticed any blank textures.  I'm willing to help out though.

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Reply #23 - May 23rd, 2004 at 11:17am

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Scott, I have almost finished the helicopter section for 2004. I picked it because it is a smaller section and thought that maybe if I actually showed that I am working on it we may get some other volunteers.
Downloading ALOT of files is time consuming and looking through them all is even worse. LOL

Anyways we should come up with a list of what sections we are going to do so that they are all covered and we are not doing the same sections. I guess I will take the helo's since I am already half done with them.

Here is a breakdown of the sections:
Civil Jets  48 pages
Props       22 pages
Military     21 pages
Helicopters   9 pages
Vintage      13 pages
Misc.      5 pages

Panels and Scenery are the only two that don't need to be gone through. Misc section is really easy since there are only a few files that need to be looked at.

Let me know what sections you want and lets get this thing started.

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Reply #24 - May 23rd, 2004 at 11:23am

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Downloading ALOT of files is time consuming and looking through them all is even worse.


..& costs me $$$ ...


Most files where there is a paint kit will mention it in the description.

& also remember that many later FS2002 files will work fine in FS2004 - so the FS2004 pages are not enough to resrict this to.

There are not too many paint kits available. & in theory they shouldn't take too long to find. Generally if I saw a file included a paintkit I would add it into the description if it wasn't already mentioned ..

Thanks Smiley

 
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Reply #25 - May 23rd, 2004 at 12:25pm

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Sorry Pete.
I definattly would not want to incur any extra charges on your costs.

so scrap the downloading (at least thats less work to do).

We still need to know exactly what information you will need us to send to you (If this is going to be done of course). Let us know.

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Reply #26 - May 23rd, 2004 at 12:50pm

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Sorry Pete.
I definattly would not want to incur any extra charges on your costs.

so scrap the downloading (at least thats less work to do).

We still need to know exactly what information you will need us to send to you (If this is going to be done of course). Let us know.

Kevin


Well I do think it's a good idea & as some have said may well encourage a few others to get involved in repainting.

The best thing I can think of is to think of a few search terms -

paint kit
paintkit
for repainters
base textures
.... & whatever other terms you could think a designer or painter may have used ...

& report the results. It would then be for me to harvest these & place them on the new 'Design - Repainting' (or whatever...) page ....

As always such input is invaluable & appreciated by many people - by no means least - me! Smiley
 
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Reply #27 - May 23rd, 2004 at 5:57pm

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Pete do you need the full path or just the file name?

I'll start at the bottom of the 2k2 files and work towards 2k4, and I can meet Knight in the middle.
 
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Reply #28 - May 24th, 2004 at 7:13am

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Well by coincidence Rob Smith has uploaded a series of FS2004 default repaint kits - which has decided this issue! Smiley

The section is going live today Smiley

Thanks for the suggestion - very good idea!

 
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Reply #29 - May 24th, 2004 at 8:42am

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Great!

Scott, I will start at the top of 2004 section and work down. We should meet somewhere in the 2002 section since it is MASSIVE. Keep me up to date on where you are so that we know when its all done.
 
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Rather than work your way through the pages wouldn't a search using various terms be 100 times easier? Wink - I found a few.

  I also wonder if it's worth bothering with pre FSDS2/GMax aircraft??

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Well by coincidence Rob Smith has uploaded a series of FS2004 default repaint kits - which has decided this issue


Here it is!

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repnt;action=display;num=1...

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Reply #32 - May 24th, 2004 at 12:47pm

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Here are some pages that show paintkits.  I'll add to them as I find more.  If you want specific file names, let me know and I'll go get those as well.

http://www.simviation.com/fs2004jets23.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002jets64.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2004jets17.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002jets12.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002props52.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002jets68.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2004military19.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2000props13.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002props7.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2000military2.htm
http://www.simviation.com/cfs2aircraft32.htm
 
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Reply #33 - May 27th, 2004 at 3:22am

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I have been unable to find any mention of Paint Kits or Blank Textures in the CFS2 downloads section.

That took a long time and I now have blurred vision.

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Reply #34 - May 27th, 2004 at 1:29pm

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