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May 19
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Found this little gem on eBay.
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Aircraft has been burned, smokes a little
That's a bit of an understatement, I would say...
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May 19
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No thanks.
What a stupid waste of money and it already has one bid on it! I am struggling to find anything decent on it. What is there has been affected in some way or another by the fire.
Besides who wants to fit such parts to their aircraft, - not me! Not that I have one of course!
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May 19
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I can't see what possible use this would be to anyone. The law might be different for private owners but overhauling/fitting salvaged parts to an aircraft is illegal. A serious offence even if they're in perfect working condition. No reputable maintenance or repair organisation would touch it.
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May 19
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I can't see what possible use this would be to anyone. The law might be different for private owners but overhauling/fitting salvaged parts to an aircraft is illegal. A serious offence even if they're in perfect working condition. No reputable maintenance or repair organisation would touch it.
Why is it that everything that's fun has to be illegal.
Little glue and duct tape and it's just as new. "One plane. Slightly Used. Smells a tad like bacon and burning rubber but other than that fine."
This just proves the old adage that a fool and his money are soon parted.
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May 19
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what idiot would pay $1,000 for this
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May 19
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what idiot would pay $1,000 for this
If I had my A&P licence right now, I would buy it. Air Tractors are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination and are worth every penny.
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I can't see what possible use this would be to anyone. The law might be different for private owners but overhauling/fitting salvaged parts to an aircraft is illegal. A serious offence even if they're in perfect working condition. No reputable maintenance or repair organisation would touch it.
Maybe on your side of the pond, not here in the U.S. though.
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May 19
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Oh I don't know, a lick of paint, a big hammer, and a miracle courtesy of The Almighty
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May 19
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I don't mind admitting that this scares me. You would not believe the tens of thousands of pounds worth of genuine brand new parts I've seen scrapped simply because I couldn't locate the original manufacturer's documents. Some of these were extremely rare. It was almost enough to make a grown man weep. Then I see something like this.
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May 19
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If I had my A&P licence right now, I would buy it. Air Tractors are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination and are worth every penny.
Working ones, you mean, right?
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May 19
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Working ones, you mean, right?
Aircraft never die, they just become too expensive for one to maintain.
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I can't see what possible use this would be to anyone. The law might be different for private owners but overhauling/fitting salvaged parts to an aircraft is illegal. A serious offence even if they're in perfect working condition. No reputable maintenance or repair organisation would touch it.
In this case maybe
... but aircraft part recycling is a thriving business. & yes - though they may be beyond UK legal system - the RAF swap & recycle parts from decommissioned aircraft too.
Think Global. It's the world we live in.
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May 19
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In this case maybe
... but aircraft part recycling is a thriving business.
So it seems.
It's fine to swap serviceable/repairable parts from one aircraft to another but using parts from crashed aircraft is not allowed - especially if they've been in a fire.
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& yes - though they may be beyond UK legal system - the RAF swap & recycle parts from decommissioned aircraft too.
Military aircraft come under completely different regulations.
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May 19
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The flippin wings have melted off, the frame is scorched and twisted, the wiring harness is melted spaghetti, etc...etc...etc..
The only good part looks like the rudder and rear wheel. It would make a nice flower pot!
I guess if you have the money, the know how and the urge to say, 'I rebuilt this thing from the ground up",... literally, it might be worth it.
As for me, I think it would make a nice lawn ornament!
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As for me, I think it would make a nice lawn ornament!
Yup for November the 5th!!!
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May 19
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Look at it this way; for $1000 you get to tell the girls at the bar you own a plane. The fact that it looks something like my wife's meatloaf is just details. You still get bragging rights.
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May 19
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Kevin you've got the Hungarian cookbook (in English), what seems to be the problem?
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Hey Mark, it just occured to me. Do they really eat Goulash over there?
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Yup, and its delicious
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Well, I thought that I might one day be able to rebuild an aircraft for me to fly. Turns out I was wrong... Thanks for the heads-up Doug
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May 20
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Will I'm sure we can come to some arrangement. What you need is a sheet of A4 paper, then I'll describe the folds for you
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Will I'm sure we can come to some arrangement. What you need is a sheet of A4 paper, then I'll describe the folds for you
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Well, I thought that I might one day be able to rebuild an aircraft for me to fly. Turns out I was wrong... Thanks for the heads-up Doug
This might be still be possible. Private owners can get away with many things that maintenance organisations could not. You only have to check out my recent topics in the Photos forum to see how popular restoring vintage aircraft is these days. These are usually registered under a Permit to Fly as they're not used for commercial purposes. It's very difficult, if not impossible, to obtain genuine parts for these aircraft so you have to repair the original parts, find alternatives or make your own.
I have no problem with this at all. However, I would baulk at the idea of salvaging parts from a burned out hulk.
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However, I would baulk at the idea of salvaging parts from a burned out hulk.
Does this extend to organ donor cards Doug? Mind you would anyone want my liver
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Does this extend to organ donor cards Doug? Mind you would anyone want my liver
No thanks. I would think that your liver is in much the same state as my lungs.
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Doug giveth and Doug taketh away. Blessed be Doug.
Cheers mate, I'm happier now.
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Cheers mate, I'm happier now.
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LOL Maybe that should be the other way round.
If you're prepared to do the work I think you might be better off with one of the modern homebuilt types. These are very pretty little planes made from the latest materials at a fraction of the cost of a conventional aircraft. Here's a couple of examples.
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Or for the more hardcore homebuilder the MJ100...
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I guess whoever is bidding on it needs a good conversation peice
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It seems that the Air Tractor is a pretty popular work horse! It also seems to be that it only comes in the one paint scheme, yellow with blue trim. Here are 2 shots of the Air Tractor that I am sure many of us would not mind coughing up a few bucks for!
Nice Tractor!
A Tractor with floats!
I think with so many people sharing some photos in this thread, it is time for it to go into the "photos" forum!
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The Air Tractor with floats is known as the Fire Boss. There was an article about it in Aviation Canada a while ago. They use it a lot up here in Canada to fight forrest fires. It's made by Wipaire Inc out of St Paul Minnesota.
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Is that homebuilt full-scale?
Yup
The Marcel Jurca MJ100 is a full sized replica, there is also a 75% scale the MJ10.
For more info. on the wide range of plans available check out
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The Air Tractor with floats is known as the Fire Boss. There was an article about it in Aviation Canada a while ago. They use it a lot up here in Canada to fight forrest fires. It's made by Wipaire Inc out of St Paul Minnesota.
I've seen these used before for fires. I'm curious why, as they certainly couldn't hold very much...
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i suppose you could use the tail wheel off that wreck.. could be used as a nice ornament in the garden
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