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Used Tomcats for sale..Found these shots in a book (Read 978 times)
May 13th, 2004 at 7:25pm
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Found these shots in a book about the Aircraft retired to sit in the desert sun near Tucson, Arizona out at Davis-Monthan air Base..    At this time there were 4,687 war-planes parked there.

The first batch are Grumman Tomcats, the most popular download for the last 12 months at No-Nodes..     I think the Swordsman was one of the paint-jobs available ...

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This batch are Skyhawks, interesting to me bacause the New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) flew highly modified models of these up to a couple of years ago.

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Last one is a B47 Stratojet, only one of hundreds of mega bombers etc to be seen there..

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Anyone ever been lucky enough to visit one of these bases ?    I wonder what sort of clearance would be needed ?

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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2004 at 2:57am

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I wonder if they'd take my car part-ex for a Tomcat Cheesy

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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2004 at 5:55am
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Ozzys sister for that B-47 and one of my cousins for a h-bomb... Grin
 
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2004 at 6:14am

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If these are recent photos I have to wonder why they bother storing all this obsolete equipment. Keep a few examples by all means but the sheer amount of aircraft stored in these places never ceases to amaze me. Most are never likely to be used again. That B-47 would be much better off in a museum where people can go & see it. IMHO

The desert air seems to preserve them in a reasonable condition. Back in the early 60s a friend of mine went to Arizona to find 3 B-17s for the film "The War Lover". He told me they picked the 3 with most air still in the tyres, fitted extra tanks in the fuselage, checked the oil & flew them back to England. I don't remember what happened to them. At least one might still be airworthy.
 

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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2004 at 6:30am

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the key advantage to desert storage is the lack of rain, no rain little rusting.  The question then comes up what will happen when they run out of space
 
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2004 at 6:32am

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Björn you'd be lucky to get part exchange on a Soviet-era hairdryer for my sister Grin
 

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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2004 at 6:36am

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the key advantage to desert storage is the lack of rain, no rain little rusting.  The question then comes up what will happen when they run out of space

I realise that Craig but even if it is in a reasonable condition what's the point of keeping all that junk? I suppose it's cheaper & more convenient to dump them there than to scrap them. Out of sight, out of mind - as they say. What a wasteful lot we humans are. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2004 at 6:44am

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sadly the military just sees them as pieces of metal. Its because of that there are so few flyable classics.
 
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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2004 at 7:00am

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next year i'm probably going to the AMARC (Aerospace Maintenance And Regeneration Center) at Davis Monthan AFB, Tucson. they give guided bus tours there...trust me, it will be worth it!

sad they don't sell any of those planes. every single aircraft there is seen as a part of the US history and can't or won't be sold! sad because i'd love to have an old Buff in my garden  Wink

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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2004 at 8:13am

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Hagar, they strip most of the parts that they could resell or reuse, and the planes in the graveyards are pretty much just exoskeletons.

Every once in a blue moon, though, they'll call one of these things back into service.  It's very, very rare, but it happens.

Think of the cash they'd make selling this stuff to simmers though!  Imagine the simpit you could make!!!
 

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Does anyone fancy popping down there with a truck and some spanners?
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oh and some decent suspension for a tail-dragger Grin

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Reply #11 - May 14th, 2004 at 8:52am

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next year i'm probably going to the AMARC (Aerospace Maintenance And Regeneration Center) at Davis Monthan AFB, Tucson. they give guided bus tours there...trust me, it will be worth it!
Good one Bones. Wish I could come with you. Just be careful. I've been told that rattlers & other creatures often make their homes in the aircraft. Wink

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sad they don't sell any of those planes. every single aircraft there is seen as a part of the US history and can't or won't be sold! sad because i'd love to have an old Buff in my garden  Wink

This seems ridiculous to me. I suppose they leave them until they evenually rot & fall apart. The British government sells off its obsolete aircraft & they can go for ridiculously low prices. These are usually purchased for scrap but sometimes saved by museums or restoration projects. The Bruntingthorpe Vulcan is one example. Don't quote me but I think it was purchased for something like £250, including delivery to the airfield by RAF aircrew. Naturally all secret equipment was removed first. It will possibly fly again one day & bring pleasure to 1,000s of people. http://www.vulcan558club.com/

I believe that motoring journalist & broadcaster Jeremy Clarkson has an EE Lightning in his back garden & a Harrrier in the front. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #12 - May 14th, 2004 at 9:32am
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Björn you'd be lucky to get part exchange on a Soviet-era hairdryer for my sister Grin


Is she so un-attractive? Well....we should put some tape over her mouth and dress her like Britney Spears. I bet that the guys from that "graveyard" will hand the B-47 over to me in a second. Grin
 
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Reply #13 - May 14th, 2004 at 10:39am

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This seems ridiculous to me. I suppose they leave them until they evenually rot & fall apart.


believe me or not Hagar, but it's what i read on an AMARC site... Wink
 

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believe me or not Hagar, but it's what i read on an AMARC site... Wink

I believe you Mr. Bones. I still think it's ridiculous. Roll Eyes Wink
 

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Is she so un-attractive?

Yes Grin
Actually there would be one way to make her attractive, but it involves putting her in a coffin and driving a stake through her heart (if you've got an electron microscope to find it!) Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #16 - May 14th, 2004 at 5:47pm

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I toured AMARC last spring, while on a trip to watch some spring training baseball.  IT's a great tour, put on by the Pima Air and Space Museum across the street.  IT's a 1 hour bus tour, photography allowed.  The museum is great too.  Tons of aircraft sitting in the sand, and you can walk rright up to them.  I remember about 7 B-52s, a HArrier, F-14, A-10, Ea6,  C-130, and lots more. 
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Reply #17 - May 14th, 2004 at 7:50pm
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It's not all a total loss....In 1950 when the Korean War started, they dragged out heaps of B-29's (50 for a start) and then used parts from may of the others to keep things going.     Spare parts worth $300,000, half the initial purchase price of each aircraft, were being removed from each B-29.    This included bombsights, engines, fuel and oil tanks, propellors and instruments.   The stripped out carcasses were sold for scrap at $2,300 each.

According to the book "Boneyard Badges" over 1000 B-47s were sent there for disposal.

The main idea of the book was to record the "nose art" and insignias of many forgotten squadrons.
 
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Reply #18 - May 15th, 2004 at 5:54am
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Actually there would be one way to make her attractive, but it involves putting her in a coffin and driving a stake through her heart (if you've got an electron microscope to find it!) Grin Grin Grin


Dammit! Now how can I get that B-47?? Hmmm...............................................beer? Grin
 
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Reply #19 - May 16th, 2004 at 6:48pm

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they should at least allow us to visit the places......that would be awesome walking round an aircraft graveyard for a day


as if they are leaving aircraft to rot away instead of transfering them to museums..the shame of it

does the navy still fly the f14?
 

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Reply #20 - May 16th, 2004 at 7:08pm

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Yup Daz they still do fly 14s Wink
 

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