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May 13th, 2004 at 12:10pm

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I've been curious about this--Who made the most victories in one mission during WWII?  I read about one US Navy Pilot who only met the enemy once in combat but managed to shoot down five planes in that mission.  Can't remember his name at the moment.

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Reply #1 - May 13th, 2004 at 12:16pm
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Hans-Joachim Marseille over Africa. Six Kittyhawks in one sortie.
Highest day-count: Eighteen.
 
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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2004 at 12:23pm

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I don't know for certain but assume it was a Luftwaffe pilot - possibly this man.
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Hauptmann Hans-Joachim Marseille, called the "Star of Africa" shot down seven Curtiss Kittyhawk fighters within eleven minutes in an incredible aerial fight over the northern Sahara desert.

On June 15 he shot down 4 aircraft in three minutes. Two days later he score 6 in only ten minutes.


I seem to remember he once shot down my hero Squadron Leader Neville Duke, highest scoring RAF fighter pilot in North Africa & later to become chief test pilot for Hawker Aviation.
 
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Reply #3 - May 13th, 2004 at 6:15pm

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Lt(jg) Alex Vraciu (USN) scored six victories in eight minutes flying an F6F-3 Hellcat from the USS Lexington in 1944.
 
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Reply #4 - May 15th, 2004 at 1:46am

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  Capt. William Shomo of the Fifth Air Force (USA) downed seven aircraft (1 G4M 'Betty' and 6 Ki-61 'Tony's) in one sortie over the island of Luzon on January 11th, 1945 while flying a F-6D (photo-recon version of the P-51D).
 
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Reply #5 - May 15th, 2004 at 6:00am
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Were those F-6s armed?  ???
 
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Reply #6 - May 15th, 2004 at 12:58pm

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Were those F-6s armed?  ???


Either that, or he scared them with the flashes from his Brownie camera?

From what I've been seeing, it I wold say that the F-6D/K recon versions retained their armament, and probably lost the fuselage fuel tank, since the cameras were located in the rear fuselage.
 
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Reply #7 - May 16th, 2004 at 5:28pm

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  Many years ago I read that when Capt. Shomo returned to his airfield he bagan a series of "victory" rolls.  His fellow pilots on the ground were glad to see that Capt. Shomo had scored.  He had been in the theater since November 1943, flying the P-39Q, then the P-40N, and had just downed his first Japanese aircraft the previous day (Janurary 10,1945).  But as his rolls continued on to four through seven the pilots on the ground became angry with Shomo.  For these fighter pilots the "victory" roll was a reverent gesture and not to be taken in jest.  Shomo had the proof for his actions though.  Not only did he have his gun camera film, but he also took photos of the downed Japanese aircraft burning in the jungle with the recon camera of the F-6 he was flying!
 
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Reply #8 - May 17th, 2004 at 10:34am
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Almost the same with Marseille,but the ground crew was very happy instead. His proof was his wingman who circled over the place of action when Marseille shot those Kittyhawks down.
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 1st, 2004 at 10:31am

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Finnish lt. Jorma Sarvanto scored six bombers in four minutes Cheesy. IIRC, this was his fifteen minutes of famedom- he didn't do that well anymore in 1941-44 war.
 
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Reply #10 - Jun 1st, 2004 at 10:38am

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I have no info yet, but surely there must have been some high numbers from the " Great Mariannas Turkey Shoot " ?
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 1st, 2004 at 2:34pm
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Finnish lt. Jorma Sarvanto scored six bombers in four minutes Cheesy. IIRC, this was his fifteen minutes of famedom- he didn't do that well anymore in 1941-44 war.


And that with a Fokker D.XXI !! My respect goes to him!  Shocked
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 1st, 2004 at 2:42pm

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I have no info yet, but surely there must have been some high numbers from the " Great Mariannas Turkey Shoot " ?


While there were high one-day scores, the sheer number of aircraft in the air on both sides at the same time could prevent any one (or more) pilot from scoring multiple kills on a single sortie.  Once you get into that melee, you spent a lot of time just watching your tail, etc.


 
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Reply #13 - Aug 18th, 2004 at 8:02am

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I've read thru this thread (3 months after the fact), but I think this bloke has taken the cake! (I don't think I missed anything better than this ???)   Shocked

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He scored seven victories in seven minutes on October 11, but his finest achievement occurred on November 6 when in the course of 17 minutes, thirteen Russian aircraft fell to his guns!

In all, Erich Rudorffer scored a total of 222 victories, placing him 7th on the all time list. This score did not come without a cost: Rudorffer flew over 1,000 missions, never took leave, was shot down 16 times, and 'hit the silk' 9 times! Of note are the 58 Il-2 Sturmoviks included in his 136 Eastern Front victories (all while flying the Fw 190) and the 10 4-engine bombers shot down in Defense of the Reich missions.

Erich Rudorffer survived the war and continued his aviation career as a member of the West German aviation agency. He is now a retired commercial pilot living in Germany. He does not discuss his Luftwaffe career.



 
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David McCampbell shot down nine japanese planes during the marianas turkey shoot.

As for the one day record, that is held by Emil Lang, shooting down 17 or 18 in one day.
 
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Reply #15 - Aug 29th, 2004 at 12:15am

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David McCampbell shot down nine japanese planes during the marianas turkey shoot.

As for the one day record, that is held by Emil Lang, shooting down 17 or 18 in one day.



Do you know how many sorties were involved. I know there were German 'Experten' who achieved high 'daily tallies', but I'm not sure what the highest was for them.

Is the 17 in a day, that you mention, the Allied record, or all time??   Grin Wink
 
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Reply #16 - Sep 5th, 2004 at 2:46am

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  While researching for another thread I ran across this....

  On October 9th, 1943 Major Bill Leverette lead two flights of P-38Gs (from a base near Tobruk, Libya) on a patrol over the Aegean Sea to cover a force of Royal Navy vessels that were sent to bombard German and Italian garrisons on the island of Rhodes.  When the P-38s arrived at their station they found the ships under attack by a large formation (25 to 30 aircraft) of Ju-87 dive bombers.  "In the subsquent melee, Leverette claimed seven Ju-87s distroyed and two damaged..."
 
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