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May 10th, 2004 at 11:53am

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Okay, now I know this has been asked before, but to be honest, I didn't pay attention because I thought "Nah, they didn't put it into FS9."

But something very odd just happened to me while recreating the infamous Flight 19.

For those of you who don't know, Flight 19 was a training flight of five US Navy TBM Avengers that disappeared without a trace in December of 1945 somewhere near Florida.

As in real life, I departed NAS Ft. Lauderdale (now KFLL) on a heading of 091.  I expected to stumble across Chicken and Hen Shoals almost 60 miles off shore.

HOWEVER....about 20 minutes out, I lost all roll of the aircraft.  I couldn't turn left or right.  Fortunately, I was able to use my rudder trim wheel to at least yaw may way to this tiny a$$ dirt patch in the middle of the ocean.  (I'm still there, so if any of you have a Dauphin in the hangar, I could use a ride home.)

I checked my realism and failure settings  numerous times (because I can't believe this could really happen in FS), and everything checks out.

Has anyone else encountered strange occurances in this region?
 

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Reply #1 - May 10th, 2004 at 12:20pm

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...tiny a$$ dirt patch in the middle of the ocean.  (I'm still there, so if any of you have a Dauphin in the hangar, I could use a ride home.)...


Do you have a laptop with satellite feed? If your really still there... how did you write this? Grin
 

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Reply #2 - May 10th, 2004 at 1:24pm

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Unfortunately, it is December of 1945, and I do not have this machine of which you speak. 

I did however take a piece of my uniform shirt and scribble on it with my own blood.  I then stuffed it in my now empty canteen and tossed it into the sea in the hopes that someone would stumble across it.
 

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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2004 at 1:43pm

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Wow great currents, it got all the way to the UK  Wink .

It must have been pure luck that this happened to you.

Im amazed you landed with only your rudder trim, or did you?

 
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Reply #4 - May 10th, 2004 at 2:13pm

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Barely.

Hey, you wouldn't happen to have a bottle large enough to float me a new prop, would you?
 

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Reply #5 - May 10th, 2004 at 2:30pm

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Nope, but I've got a bottle big enough to prop up the bar Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #6 - May 10th, 2004 at 2:38pm

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After that landing, that works for me.
 

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Reply #7 - May 10th, 2004 at 2:56pm

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Unfortunately, it is December of 1945, and I do not have this machine of which you speak.  

I did however take a piece of my uniform shirt and scribble on it with my own blood.  I then stuffed it in my now empty canteen and tossed it into the sea in the hopes that someone would stumble across it.



He probley wrote this useing the add on "Knee Board web...
 

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Reply #8 - May 10th, 2004 at 2:57pm

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He probley wrote this useing the add on "Knee Board web...


Nope.  I would have, except that when trying to figure out what had happened to my ailerons, I got pi$$ed off and threw the darned thing right out the open canopy.  (I'd opened it, fearing I'd be swimming.)
 

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Reply #9 - May 10th, 2004 at 4:32pm

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Hi Scott...!

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Nope, but I've got a bottle big enough to prop up the bar Grin Grin Grin


Like Ozzy, I have these strange experiences flying FS after consuming one of Ozzy bottles of fire water.... Shocked...!

According to the BBC TV documentery of the fatal flight, you really must believe what you see on your compass, and ignore what you see outside of your cockpit... Wink...!

I look at my watch. It tells me it's supper time, and I believe it. The fact that the kitchen is being decorated and therefore empty is just an illusion...!
LOL...LOL...!

Cheers Scott...!

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P.S. the BBC documentary film of the flight was very interesting and informative, by the way.... Wink...!
 

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Reply #10 - May 10th, 2004 at 4:33pm

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I recently watched a documentary on The Discovery Channel.  Although I'd heard about and seen stuff about this flight before, this one was uber-interesting, and that's what prompted me to recreate the flight. Wink
 

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Reply #11 - May 10th, 2004 at 4:49pm

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I recently watched a documentary on The Discovery Channel.  Although I'd heard about and seen stuff about this flight before, this one was uber-interesting, and that's what prompted me to recreate the flight. Wink


I saw that documentary too. They say theres a big hole somewhere in the Bermuda triangle and it releases methane gas that rises out of the ocean and into the air. Since methane is lighter than air it rises up and sometimes into an airplanes engine, causing it to turn off. The methane also screws up the altimeter so it looks like your going up, when your really falling  Smiley
 

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Reply #12 - May 10th, 2004 at 5:33pm

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I saw that documentary too. They say theres a big hole somewhere in the Bermuda triangle and it releases methane gas that rises out of the ocean and into the air. Since methane is lighter than air it rises up and sometimes into an airplanes engine, causing it to turn off. The methane also screws up the altimeter so it looks like your going up, when your really falling  Smiley


The methane gas thingy was to do with sinking ships, (aeriated water reduces the density of water, therefore ships sink), wrong place at the wrong time... Cry...!

The problem with the missing aeroplanes was to do with the lead pilot miss-reading the identity of islands beneath them* when referring them to his map, and therefore ignoring his accurate compass readings, flying in the wrong direction, running out of fuel, and crashing into the sea, together with the rest of the formation.
(The submerged planes were subsiquently found by divers far out at sea).

...nothing magic... Wink...!

Paul....!

*He observed the wrong island, facing in the wrong direction, and therefore assumed his compass was reading incorrectly...!

 

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Reply #13 - May 10th, 2004 at 5:38pm

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Okay so we definitely saw different documentaries.  lol

This one dealt with aircraft as well.  The theory being that methane has different qualities (obviously) than air.

The lower density results in the aircraft rapidly descending, but creating a higher pressure reading on the altimeter.  This tells the pilot they're going up, although the opposite is true.
 

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Reply #14 - May 10th, 2004 at 5:45pm

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Interesting. If what Scott says is true maybe the guys at M$ added a little Easter Egg.

From all the accounts I've read & seen on this Flight 19 incident it was quite likely a case of the leader getting lost over the ocean. His students would have been relying on him. Many of these "Bermuda Triangle" theories state that the pilots were all experienced when it was in fact a training flight.

From what I can make out this "Triangle" is not defined on any official chart & has been conveniently enlarged over the years to include any unexplained mishap in the general area of the Atlantic Ocean. I don't believe any of this nonsense myself. Roll Eyes
 

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