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May 3
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, 2004 at 11:22am
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Here's a closer look at some of the aircraft taking part in yesterday's display. These are much better quality than most of my aerial shots. I'm no photographer & my automatic camera on full zoom is not suitable for dull conditions. A little bit of sunshine would have made all the difference. Never mind. Better luck next time.
The Sopwith Triplane. The success of this little aircraft forced Anthony Fokker to produce his Dr.I Triplane. This became more well-known than the Sopwith as it was flown by the notorious Red Baron. This example is much more than a normal replica. Quote from the Shuttleworth website.
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Northern Aeroplane Workshops built this example of the Sopwith Triplane for the Collection on an entirely voluntary basis. Sir Thomas Sopwith saw the Triplane while it was being constructed and claimed that it was so accurate that it could be considered as a one-off extension to his original production line. As such our Triplane is called a late production example and carries the serial number 153, which is one more than the last Triplane constructed in 1917.
Our Triplane first flew on 10 April 1992 and so Sir Thomas was unable to see it fly as he died in 1989 at the age of 101. The Sopwith Triplane is in the colours of N6290 with the bold DIXIE 11 emblazoned on her forward fuselage. DIXIE served with No 8 (Naval) Squadron of the Royal Naval Air Service
The De Havilland DH60x Hermes Moth first flew in 1925. One of the earliest in the successful Moth series of light aircraft that revolutionised private flying in the UK & much of the world between the 2 World Wars.
The only surviving example of the Desoutter I monoplane. Built by Desoutter Aircraft at Croydon it was based on the Dutch designed Koolhoven FK41. Forty-one British built Desoutters were produced between 1929 and 1931. They were used mainly as air taxis or ambulances. This one is just back in service following complete overhaul after bad aileron flutter was experienced.
The Miles Magister. Many BoB fighter pilots were trained on these. Being of all-wooden construction the "Maggie" is quite rare now, like most Miles aircraft. These are 2 of the only 3 airworthy examples in the world compared with around 50 Tiger Moths.
The Shuttleworth Chipmunk. This is actually a civil Chipmunk 22 in RCAF markings. Not rare but one of my favourite aircraft. It's of metal construction but looks very similar to the "Maggie" which it replaced as the RAF standard ab initio trainer. It became one of the longest serving aircraft in the RAF. 2 examples are still in service with the BBMF as taildragger trainers.
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May 3
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Fabulous shots Doug
I believe the real Canadian Chippies had bubble canopies though didn't they? All the same still one of my favourite aircraft
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May 3
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Hi Doug:
Fantastic Shots...keep them coming
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
P.S. Yes most RCAF Chipmunks had a bubble canopy and some aircraft were produced with an all metal wing while others were half metal and half fabric covered.
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All stunning A/C there, Doug.............lets hope they can keep them flying for many more yrs........
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great shots.
Love the chipmunk, but my fav is the school of army aviations old chipmunks based at wallop:) now replaced by something else
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I marvel that the Magister and Chipmunk look so alike, especially when painted the same trainer yellow, okay, so one has spats, a pointy fin, etc., closed vs open canopies, but darn, using a normal "morphing" program, one can make an animation morphing the Magister to "turn into" a Chipmunk!
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May 6
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Hi Doug....!
Beautiful photographs...
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....Fascinated by the Sopwith Triplane*.... 8)...!
Was it fitted with the Gnome 7 cylinder rotary engine...?
(I don't suppose there are too many of those engines around now, available in working order to be fitted to aircraft)....
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Cheers Doug....!
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Hi Foz. Glad you finally noticed my shots.
The Sopwith Triplane was fitted with a variety of engines.
Clerget 9Z, 9 cylinder, rotary, 110 hp [82 kw]
Clerget 9B, rotary, 130 hp [96 kw]
Le Rhône, 9 cylinder, 110 hp [82 kw]
I have to admit that I'm not certain which this example has.* ???
All the Shuttleworth aircraft in my photos are airworthy. The ones in this thread all took part in the flying display.
*PS. I just checked. It's the Clerget 9B.
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Was it fitted with the Gnome 7 cylinder rotary engine...?
(I don't suppose there are too many of those engines around now, available in working order to be fitted to aircraft)....
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Cheers Doug....!
Paul.
You'd love Kermit Weeks's "Fantasy of Flight" in Florida. They've got a room full of piston engines including sundry rotaries. All of which are either in working condition or a few hours away from being so.
(Side note to Hagar: That little E', S', and L' book is affecting me already!)
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May 6
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You'd love Kermit Weeks's "Fantasy of Flight" in Florida. They've got a room full of piston engines including sundry rotaries. All of which are either in working condition or a few hours away from being so.
I visited "Fantasy of Flight" soon after it first opened. I understand a lot has been added since.
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I marvel that the Magister and Chipmunk look so alike
This is the reason I posted both shots together. I wondered if anyone else would notice the similarity. Being more familiar than most with Miles & their aircraft for the best part of my life I always thought they were sadly overlooked. They were extremely talented and prolific designers & many of their projects were well ahead of their time. Unfortunately, maybe too far ahead. It's a shame most of their aircraft were of all-wood construction or more might have survived.
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May 6
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shame most of their aircraft were of all-wood construction or more might have survived
Tragically most wooden aircraft have gone the way of the dodo
Is there any news on any of the Mossie restorations?
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Tragically most wooden aircraft have gone the way of the dodo
Is there any news on any of the Mossie restorations?
Mark
It's not so much the wood but the glue used in the construction. The joints fail & ply delaminates after so many years depending on the storage conditions. Once the damp gets in you've had it. Modern wooden aircraft assembled with the later adhesives & construction methods should be fine. I think most fuselage structures are now made of steel tubing.
I've lost track of the current warbird scene. So much has been going on. Tempest would be the best person to ask on the Mossie.
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May 6
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I know a little about the problems Doug, its sad.
I know there was a Mossie in the US and another in Aus. that were nearing completion, any ideas how many in the UK are undergoing surgery at the minute Doug?
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I know there was a Mossie in the US and another in Aus. that were nearing completion, any ideas how many in the UK are undergoing surgery at the minute Doug?
Mark
Not offhand. I think I heard it mentioned that one is being restored in the UK. I'm not sure how badly the BAe Mossie was damaged.
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