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Apr 24th, 2004 at 6:37pm
Bazza   Ex Member

 
Now Children,

In the old days, when people were frightened of flying, the planes used to have a big tank of alcohol and all the passengers could drink it through plastic tubes......

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Found this in the virtual cockpit of the default DC3 (behind the pilot ?) - no doubt it has some aviation type use - Ozzie will probably know.
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2004 at 8:32pm

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ha ha ha... it could be for the post-flight part. im sure it was a relief to land in some flights!!

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Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2004 at 10:49pm

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lol, I saw that awhile back and took a screenshot, but then my internet was acting up that night and I couldn't get it uplaoded, and since then i had forgotten about it until now....Smiley
 
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Reply #3 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 12:01am

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Alcohol was used as a fuel deicer in many planes of the 40's and 50's...the CT-133 had an alcohol tank inside the engine chamber.
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 3:59am

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I find most pilots have an alcohol tank fitter to them Grin
Its better known by its aviation name as a "Beer Belly" Wink

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Reply #5 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 4:18am
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I knew that two things would come out of this post----

1.    That someone brighter than me would know what it
      actually was,     Undecided  and that :
   

2.     Ozzie would respond accordingly, (he still owes me
       a beer.)     Grin Grin Grin
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 4:25am

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Err how do you propose I get the beer to you Bazza? I could scan one and email it to you I suppose..... Grin
 
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Reply #7 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 11:36am
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Hi Bazza:

The sight tube you are looking at was used to give an indication of how much ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL was left in the tank.

Many aircraft like the DC3 had prop-deicers which used isopropyl alcohol.  There was a valve which had to be turned on plus a switch that operated a pump off the engine.

On some aircraft this could also be used to de-ice the windscreen.  Normally the windscreen de-icing system was a separate system.

However most DC3s had three isopropyl alcohol tanks.

All fluid levels were part of a DI and Pre-Flight Check.

On the DC3s I flew the tank was behind the bulk head immediately behind the co-pilot.  It was about two feet above the floor and could be filled while in the air.
The radio stack was across from that behind the pilot.
To the left of the radio stack was the galley if you were looking at the port engine.

The leading edges of the wings used rubber boots which inflated and deflated.

As time progressed so did the DC3 and modernization moved things about.  

Hope this helps a little Smiley

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Reply #8 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 5:37pm
Bazza   Ex Member

 
Thanks for that Doug, the level of knowledge on this site never fails to amaze..

I have heaps of literature on DC3's and as far as I can recall no mention of that anywhere - nothing like personal experience I suppose.

As for that beer Mark, there are problems I admit, but I'm working on it.
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 6:06pm
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Quote:
Hi Bazza:

The sight tube you are looking at was used to give an indication of how much ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL was left in the tank.

Many aircraft like the DC3 had prop-deicers which used isopropyl alcohol.  There was a valve which had to be turned on plus a switch that operated a pump off the engine.

On some aircraft this could also be used to de-ice the windscreen.

On the DC3s I flew the tank was behind the bulk head immediately behind the co-pilot.  It was about two feet above the floor and could be filled while in the air.
The radio stack was across from that behind the pilot.
To the left of the radio stack was the galley if you were looking at the port engine.

The leading edges of the wings used rubber boots which inflated and deflated.

As time progressed so did the DC3 and modernization moved things about.  

Hope this helps a little Smiley

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug


Isopropyl? That's the kind of alcohol in those horrible swabs! What's that doing in a plane? ???
 
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Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2004 at 9:50pm
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Hi Falcon:

It was used for de-icing.
We also used vegetable and mineral based hydraulic fluids prior to what they are using to-day.
Survival equipment such as edible candles were also standard on most  military aircraft up to the late 1960s.
Most people are more familiar with ethylene glycol, diol, dihydric alcohol which are a sweet but poisonous syrupy liquid used as an antifreeze and solvent.
Glycol is any of a class of alcohols having 2 hydroxyl groups in each molecule.
The inventions, proto types and progress made by militarys in peace and war is what usually brings forth commercial products used by the private sector.
Not being a chemist or very well versed on glycol I am sure if you looked on the internet or even asked your science teacher you would get a lot more help than I can give you.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug Smiley
 
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Reply #11 - Apr 26th, 2004 at 12:20am
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Doug,

when you tried to drink the Iso-P, did you find it had a bitter taste ?

Bazza
 
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Reply #12 - Apr 26th, 2004 at 2:21am

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Thats interesting. I never knew that.

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Reply #13 - Apr 26th, 2004 at 6:09am

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Bazza try tonic water and a slice of lemon with your Iso-P. Delicious Grin
 
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Reply #14 - Apr 26th, 2004 at 6:56am

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Bazza try tonic water and a slice of lemon with your Iso-P. Delicious Grin

Sounds like a new sports drink ........ enhances ability untill it hits your legs  Grin
 
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