Quote:


I don't have a lot to spend hense the slow RAM. I'm basically using all my old components except RAM so I'll be using a FX5200 with it.

Quote:


So RAM speed effects FSB speed. That doesn't make much sense because I'm running PC-133 at 133mhz but the FSB is running 266mhz. Nobody mentioned this on Guru3d. I'm getting conflicting info now so I better talk to my computer guy before buy any memory.

Quote:


That clears things up. There's a sale on DDR ram for $49. I think that's for all speeds, the ad didn't specify.

Quote:



Scoff scoff!

Yup I have an 800fsb system.......

Muhaa! 

Quote:


I guess I'm supposed to pull it out of thin air. Nobody sells it around here and I don't have a credit card to buy it online.

Quote:


The guy at Best Buy said they weren't going to get it for a while. Anyway, I just found out that the 755-A2 isn't out yet in Canada so I'm going to try for it's older brother the 755-A. It's cheaper and the only difference is that it doesn't support DDR400 which isn't a major problem.

Computer sales people really don't know a lot about computer parts and how they work. 

Running an AMD processor in-sync with the RAM is imperitive for optimal performance.

The 64-bit processor will use 2x200 fsb and the RAM will need to be 400MHz in-order them to keep up with each other.  The weakest will slow itself to stay with the other.  Hence the bottleneck.  Bottlenecks are not worth saving a little bit of money on, because when they happen it is very disappointing, it can damage your experience of programs because it is slowing down significantly as they are being pressured by the program.

You need to ask the person you are buying from if they have any motherboards with the "VIA K8T800 chipset".  DDR400 Athlon64 motherboards use that chipset, also that is a cost effective, reliable and very good performance chipset.

My personnel preference is the Gigabyte motherboard, i am using one now, it is very reliable and has a jumperless design, where you control everything from the bios.  It has also given me very good performance.

Quote:


Hi Orenda,

Others and myself here in the hardware forums spend a lot, a real lot - of our free time trying to help people with their particular problems.

In my case, I'm unable to work for health reasons and this is one way I can offer something back to the community, who ultimately support me.

I typically spend around four hours a day, sometimes much more, advising people in forums about their problems. Much of this time is spent researching in detail the particular hardware in question. The research, combined with personal experience is what I base my advice on.

You, of course, have no guarantee the advice is correct, so you either have to trust us, (You are asking in the first place!) or go out and spend the time researching the problem yourself.

I often advise people to research their problem themselves. Learning the in's and out's of PC hardware is a vast learning curve, and can't be done in theory alone, hands on experience is essential. I find this process interesting and rewarding. This is one of the reasons why I often suggest that people build or upgrade their own PC's.

I realise many people don't have the time or inclination to do that, so, on my own time and effort, I endeavour to provide what limited knowledge I have to the community at large.

I also realise and take seriously the fact that I am basically playing with other peoples time and money.

At times I may appear flippant, many times I try to add humour to a basically nerdy subject. If I appear rude, it's typically out of frustration of not being able to get my message across.

I offer my advice in these forums to the best of my abilty, whether right or wrong, but I assure you I do my best and I will never intentionally mislead anybody. Consider that my disclaimer if you will.

Good luck with your upgrade.

congo

No problem, That's what we're here for, to share information! (conflicting or otherwise )