Simviation Forum - Re: PMDG 737 BMI, usually 40$ But 0$ this time!

Mar 27^th, 2004 at 5:00am

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Duh

Ofcourse i was joking! That would be totaly illegal if i sent it to other people Tongue

BTW, i'm replying in a second topic, since certain people locked the other one Roll Eyes

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Reply #1 - Mar 27^th, 2004 at 6:27am

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Pretty moronic to even start a thread like that.
I know some of the PMDG beta team, and how much time and EFFORT they've put into that aircraft.
It's a damn shame to see how guys like you behave.

But I guess you'd be pretty happy if some people started to distribute your own copyrighted software, which you've spent over 1 year to develop?

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Reply #2 - Mar 28^th, 2004 at 1:36am

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Nope, I doubt he is joking... Undecided

Would he actually say he was serious about getting it for free after he got yelled at? I doubt it...

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Reply #3 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 6:07am

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Firstly, yes.

I did get it for free and did fly it on my very PC.

But, i'm not distributing it Tongue

Cuz, even if i was, the .rar file is 62 mb, and i don't feel like sending such a huge file.

Secondly,

Sorry,

But humor me, i'm a kid Tongue

Anyway, i wanted that bird for my B-day, but RAM was like 90$, so my dad didn't get it. I wanted to get my hands on it any way i could, so i asked a friend.

Sorry

Anyone know of an quality addons around 20$ ?

I have 23$, and i want to know of a good addon i can spend it on.

Mike

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Reply #4 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 8:51am

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BTW, i'm replying in a second topic, since certain people locked the other one

Mike, the shots were deleted and locked because Simviation does not support piracy...period!
No hard feelings but why would you question what I did?

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Reply #5 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:03am

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I understand that SimV doesn't support piracy, but i've got to clue you in on that fact that almost everything you buy in turkey ( as in software, etc. ) is pirated.

My copy of FS2004, i got it at the market for 1$

Mike

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Reply #6 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 11:21am

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What does being in Turkey have to do with piracy? What does being a kid have to do with Piracy? So if I am a kid in Turkey, I can feel free to rip off anything I want! Where was that information when I was 13...? Grin

Then I will assume that you are running a pirated copy of FS9, on a pirated copy of Windows, on a stolen computer system, as long as you are living in Turkey. If you leave Turkey, then you will be breaking the international laws of copyrights.

It may maybe a cultural differnce, but if you want something in life, you have got to work for it. I am sorry your role models did not teach you that. I would think we would all agree that

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Reply #7 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:03pm

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What does being in Turkey have to do with piracy? What does being a kid have to do with Piracy? So if I am a kid in Turkey, I can feel free to rip off anything I want! Where was that information when I was 13...? Grin

Then I will assume that you are running a pirated copy of FS9, on a pirated copy of Windows, on a stolen computer system, as long as you are living in Turkey. If you leave Turkey, then you will be breaking the international laws of copyrights.

It may maybe a cultural differnce, but if you want something in life, you have got to work for it. I am sorry your role models did not teach you that. I would think we would all agree that

Here Here. And yes, working sucks, but hey, you have to do it if you want to earn a living.

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Reply #8 - Mar 30^th, 2004 at 10:31am

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Here Here. And yes, working sucks, but hey, you have to do it if you want to earn a living.

you said it Jesster. working sucks Angry

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Reply #9 - Mar 30^th, 2004 at 8:51pm

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Hello,

Mike, the person who sent you the CD was denso right ? I am not sure if he is denso on the SimV forums but I am thinking that this is him. Plagiarizing and illegal copying can lead to serious consequences. If PMDG was a corporation, going to court is a possibility. Thanks.

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Reply #10 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 9:12am

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James,

First of all, who's Denso?

Secondly, if those dudes wanted to take me to court they couldn't. This is the internet dude! Plus laws where i live don't restrict or support piracy Tongue

So, in that case that is a total UN-possibility Tongue

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Reply #11 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 3:25pm

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James,

First of all, who's Denso?

Secondly, if those dudes wanted to take me to court they couldn't. This is the internet dude! Plus laws where i live don't restrict or support piracy Tongue

So, in that case that is a total UN-possibility Tongue

I really beg to differ............. Roll Eyes

What I'm trying to say is, why don't you let your parents buy payware for you? That's the way I do it. I show my parents what I want and they get it for me. No muss, no fuss.

Secondly, WHY would you even post such a thread? This never would've happened if you hadn't informed us of this. No one would've known. No truoble.

Now........ Roll Eyes

Good luck. You'll need it.

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Reply #12 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 4:40pm

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James,

First of all, who's Denso?

Secondly, if those dudes wanted to take me to court they couldn't. This is the internet dude! Plus laws where i live don't restrict or support piracy Tongue

So, in that case that is a total UN-possibility Tongue

Now this is just hilarious!
I'm laughin all my way to PMDG's website to tell about you.

Have fun!

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Reply #13 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 6:06pm

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Cmon guys calm down a little.

Are you saying you have never done anything illegal in your life. Have you never even had a CD copied for you? It is the exact same thing.

Yes people put such work into projects but I have sold projects before and I know people that got them for "free" by some other source. It doesn't bother me that much.

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Reply #14 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 7:49pm

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Actually no, I never "even" have had a CD copied for me. To do so would be to knowingly steal something.

A little while back in this thread I was thinking of posting something that said "hey lighten up..... I understand from one of the other Mods that Mike's just a kid and he's hopefully learned something from this." I held off to see where it was all going.....and then got busy.

But unfortunately from his recent response above ......... ("Secondly, if those dudes wanted to take me to court they couldn't. This is the internet dude! Plus laws where i live don't restrict or support piracy
") ...... it is pretty clear that not only has he not learned anything from this, but he is actually pretty unrepentant about his "little" faus pas.

It appears that this little crime is being rationalized here by him effectively saying:

-I am in a location that is rife with criminal activity
-everyone here does this stuff
-it is OK to commit crime because it is the internet
-I wanted it but no one would buy it for me so I just took it
-your laws can't reach me here cause I am in a "safe haven" for this kind of crime
-I won't commit a further crime by distributing it not because it is wrong.....but because it is a pain in the butt to do that

All in all....... not a very nice picture.

Mike, I'd like to suggest here that you take that $23 you have....... find yourself a job to raise the rest you need.... and then take the money and go and BUY the item you have already stolen from PMDG. Then you'll have a legal copy of the software, and will in a weird way make some restitution to them for the theft of intelectual property. It might make your conscience feel better too.

I hope.

best,

....................john

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