Simviation Forum - Ugly, but deadly... But very, very ugly...

Mar 24^th, 2004 at 3:06pm

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Reply #1 - Mar 24^th, 2004 at 4:28pm

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What exactly are you refering to? The Hind or the A10 in your sig? Grin

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Reply #2 - Mar 24^th, 2004 at 4:49pm

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Maybe the size of the picture!
Its 900 wide!! I resized it! Wink

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Reply #3 - Mar 24^th, 2004 at 5:07pm

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Its not me!!! I had a maroon T-Shirt on under my flight suit, but its definately someones first time judging by the grin Grin

There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2004 at 12:36am

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What exactly are you refering to? The Hind or the A10 in your sig? Grin

Those Are fightin words Grin

get him flyboy 8)

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Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2004 at 12:53am

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lol...definately different..

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Reply #6 - Mar 25^th, 2004 at 10:44am

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I've seen uglier helos than a Mi-24...

Nice photo,though.

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Reply #7 - Mar 26^th, 2004 at 6:21pm

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"Ugly, but deadly...But very, very ugly"

I could not agree more ! Tongue

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Reply #8 - Mar 28^th, 2004 at 5:24pm

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What exactly are you refering to? The Hind or the A10 in your sig? Grin

It sure as hell ain't the A-10. Angry

The russians are not talented at building aircraft that are asteticly pleasing. Tongue

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Reply #9 - Mar 28^th, 2004 at 6:17pm

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The russians are not talented at building aircraft that are asteticly pleasing. Tongue

What are you talking about!?
Rusky a/c look sweet @$$.

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Reply #10 - Mar 28^th, 2004 at 8:20pm

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What are you talking about!?
Rusky a/c look sweet @$$.

Pretty after I've put a '9X through one of its tailpipes maybe. Honestly they look like crap. They don't know the meaning of the word Ergonomics either Roll Eyes

A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #11 - Mar 28^th, 2004 at 8:46pm

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You got to be joking? The Mig-29 looks absolutely georgous and at the time of its birth really pioneered its way in ergonomics in aircraft. The Ruskis are very talented and the Hind looks fantastic.

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Reply #12 - Mar 28^th, 2004 at 9:28pm

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All right if you say so. I personaly hate any Mig, especialy the '29, so I don't feel the same way. The Mig's are still pretty much the only thing that shoots back (that is, if it even gets the opportunity) when the Lockheeds, the MD's, the Grumman's, and the Boeings come bombin', so I see tham as a direct threat to my and my military's well being and only good when going down in flames. Sorry.

I have also read many complants from western world pilots that have flown them and many say that they are a bloody pain in the arse. The controls are not laid out in the most natural manner and the pitt is cramped to put it nicely. They also cannot make an aircraft's skin smooth to save their lives. Roll Eyes

A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #13 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 5:17am

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Looks like the other dude is sitting on the shoulders of the pilot Grin

I agree that is one ugly SOB!!
Squint your eyes a little and it looks like a Archer fish, or something from Finding Nemo Grin

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Reply #14 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 8:14am

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All right if you say so. I personaly hate any Mig, especialy the '29, so I don't feel the same way. The Mig's are still pretty much the only thing that shoots back (that is, if it even gets the opportunity) when the Lockheeds, the MD's, the Grumman's, and the Boeings come bombin', so I see tham as a direct threat to my and my military's well being and only good when going down in flames. Sorry.

I have also read many complants from western world pilots that have flown them and many say that they are a bloody pain in the arse. The controls are not laid out in the most natural manner and the pitt is cramped to put it nicely. They also cannot make an aircraft's skin smooth to save their lives. Roll Eyes

I bet you that if you put a Russian pilot into an F16 he would complain like crazy about the layout of the thing.

I could have guessed that you hate Mig's because they're the only thing that pose a threat to the USAF. But if they are good enough to take on the west then they deserve respect. You don't have to like them but if you respect them and what they're capable of then you will probably hate them less.

And also, am I the only one who doesn't see a huge amount of difference between the Mig29, Su27 and the F15?

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!

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Reply #15 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:22am

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I have also read many complants from western world pilots that have flown them and many say that they are a bloody pain in the arse. The controls are not laid out in the most natural manner and the pitt is cramped to put it nicely.

I've heard something similar to that,but this time from british pilots about the Me 109.
Nevertheless,pilots of this aircraft were the aces of the aces of WW2. :p

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Reply #16 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:27am

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i think i shall take the eurofighter over migs boeings or lockheed martins planes any day. That thing could out turn a dog chasing its tail Grin

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Reply #17 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:31am

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Well the Mig-25 and Mig-31 are veeeerry similar designs to the F-15.

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Reply #18 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:34am

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Typical russian copying. Roll Eyes

A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #19 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:39am

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I'll just go out and laugh my f*ckin' a$$ of....this is the most stupid thing I've heard today....

Man,the F-15 was a response to the development/introtuction of the MiG-25 in the late 1960s.........copy...HAH!

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Reply #20 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 10:48am

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Note the sarcastic rolleyes.

A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #21 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 1:56pm

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How about this instead then:
Roll Eyes

A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #22 - Mar 29^th, 2004 at 6:44pm

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How about this instead then: [img]
Roll Eyes

I'm not going to even get into this conversation, but I must say that emotioncon is good!!!!! LOL!!! Grin

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Reply #23 - Mar 30^th, 2004 at 7:29am

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It might be good, but I can't help feeling that he's shot himself in the foot by posting it here. Roll Eyes

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!

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Reply #24 - Mar 30^th, 2004 at 8:40am

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You gotta love it

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Reply #25 - Mar 30^th, 2004 at 1:14pm

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A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #26 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 9:28am

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Reply #27 - Mar 31^st, 2004 at 11:23pm

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Those things are flying tanks and cant manuver well. during the cold war i was doing border patrol on the east german border and one tried to shadow a Cobra and it crash cause it couldnt keep up with the Cobra

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Reply #28 - Apr 1^st, 2004 at 12:03am

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lol sabot.

A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #29 - Apr 1^st, 2004 at 10:31am

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Those things are flying tanks and cant manuver well. during the cold war i was doing border patrol on the east german border and one tried to shadow a Cobra and it crash cause it couldnt keep up with the Cobra

I want proof...date,mission information and so on.

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Reply #30 - Apr 1^st, 2004 at 12:48pm

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A.L. Quote: Everytime you go away, it actually kinda makes my day. Everytime you leave you slam the door. You pick your words so carefully, you hate to think you're hurting me. You leave me laughing on the floor......Cause I don't give it up, I don't give a damn what you say about that. You know I don't give it up, I don't give a damn, What you say about that......&&

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Reply #31 - Apr 2^nd, 2004 at 11:29am

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The Hind that crashed in the 80's while showing off crashed because of pilot error. The statistics in real combat give a different image... After the end of the Iran-Iraq war, the Iranians lost 10 Huey-Cobra's, against 6 Iraqi Hinds. These are confirmed helicopter kills only.

Flight characteristics comparison...
Helicopter
Hind
Aircraft

In that order.
A Mi-24 isn't happy in a hover, but shines when it comes to high altitude performance, and still is one of the fastest helicopters in service with a maximum speed of 335kmh.

Russian planes: IL-76 (all standard length ones), Tu-154 and Il-62, Tu-134 and An-24RV&&&&AI flightplans and repaints can be found here

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Reply #32 - Apr 2^nd, 2004 at 2:37pm

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....,has a decent firepower and is capable of transporting soldiers.

Something like a Blackhawk mixed with an Apache. 8)

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