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Challenging airport (Read 960 times)
Mar 8th, 2004 at 10:35pm

walt_stout   Offline
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Want to try a tricky airport?  Try Sfs Airpark (80WA) in the Olympic Mountains/Olympic Peninsula.   Latitude N48*02.15',  Longitide W123*46.42'

1600' grass strip down in a hole.  I don't know where FS9 got it.......it isn't even on my Seattle sectional.  (Although my SEA sectional is outdated...don't fly real birds anymore)
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 12:36am

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there are a lot of holed-in airports in FS Roll Eyes

i think they were just poorly reproduced by microsoft when they put 'em into the game Tongue

this is not the first time i heard someone point out airports with impossible approaches or inside 300-foot deep craters...

they're out there


 

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Reply #2 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 3:22am

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Yep, it's a M$ goof up. I forget what one it is but there's one airport where the runways and taxiways are in the right spot but the ground has a hole about 170 ft. deep underneath. Talk about not taxiing off the taxiway.  Shocked Shocked Shocked
 

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Reply #3 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 2:28pm

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     I ran accross one in FS2002 in the OCEANIA area where the the entire airport was under water about three feet offshore. You can imagine my supurise when I went there and found my aircraft  gear deep in water.
 
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Reply #4 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 2:33pm

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Rio Amazonas is a good one.  Don't even think about trying to take off with anything bigger than a learjet.  777 barely gets off the ground.  I can just get a learjet out.  I have max realism settings with stress damage and collision damage on to make it real hard.  
 

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Reply #5 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 4:02pm

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You want some challening scenery?

Head up to Alaska. Tons of scenery with challenging approaches 8)
 
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Reply #6 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 4:09pm

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Oh, yes.  Alaska.  Some very challenging flying there.  I had the opportunity to fly in a law enforcement capacity in Alaska before I retired.  Some really hairy situations to get into up there.
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 9th, 2004 at 4:27pm

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You want some challening scenery?

Head up to Alaska. Tons of scenery with challenging approaches 8)



Yeah, that's a good place to fly. If the approach isn't challenging enough then throw in some real weather. That'll spice things up for you.  Grin I've seen rain, sleet, snow and fog all at the same time. Oh, don't forget the mountain tops hiding in clouds.  Shocked
 

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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2004 at 6:03pm

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Some of the airports in Alaska are tricky to fly in. Some of them are surrounded by trees, have no lights, and the weather up there can make quite a challenge!
 

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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2004 at 4:47pm

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Rio Amazonas is a good one.  


I've managed to come out from the valley and return on ground with a Mooney Bravo, Real WX (low vis. and thermal streams), max realism. Yeah, really impressive.  Shocked Now I'll try something heavier!  Undecided
 
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Reply #10 - Mar 23rd, 2004 at 11:44pm

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Rio Amazonas is a good one.  Don't even think about trying to take off with anything bigger than a learjet.  777 barely gets off the ground.  I can just get a learjet out.  I have max realism settings with stress damage and collision damage on to make it real hard.  


Kewl - thanks for the tip, I love this airfield!
HAD to try it with a 737. Got out on the first attempt; in on the second; just ignored every rule in the book doing it - along with every stress warning in the manual. Call it creative use of flaps combined with a REAL loose interpretation of the term 'rolling start'. Grin
Started by taxiing to the other end (03, I think), then driving on into the rough until right before the edge of the cliff - the one going down, that is. Smiley Engines spool up to max before the turn, to be sure they're at max power for the takeoff; using diff brakes to slow and turn. Turn to within 45 deg. of rwy heading, brakes off and line up - was doing 70kias by the time I hit the threshold. Haul off at 160, gear up, push the nose down for speed; start drifting left for the lowest part of the cliff. Can't reach it; turn's too great; but I was able to get 'er up to 220 before I hit the wall. Pull up; scraping the trees, putting in full flap. Straighten the wings; ignore the screaming passengers; float over the top of the cliff at 125kts; scaring Hell out of the eagle that was in that tree! Quick downwind and base; turn final 1bout 200ft. agl, 250kias. Scrape over the trees again; dropping flaps, spoilers, gear, opening the door and sticking my hand out the window to slow down. Surf down the wall at 180kias, flare, touchdown, throw in rev. thrust; stop comfortably shy of the end of the rwy.
Haven't got the old heart pounding like that in a while; never in a sim - a great flight; thanks for recommending it!  Grin
(P.S. - the video looks cool as hell!  Grin )
 

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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2004 at 2:15am

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I'm impressed you got a 737 out of there, but try it with max realism and you see that it is not possible.  I love landing there aswell.  Lets just say i had some close encounters with trees on the wall of the dip, and a few close encounters with the ground....
 

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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2004 at 7:02am

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Actually; sorry but I fly max settings exclusively. Don't want to sound like I'm bragging; truly.
Weird as it sounds; I've always believed the fact that I started as a sailplane pilot - and thence to a tow-pilot - has given me a good advantage in my powered flight - a good feel for building and maintaining energy. Smiley Try hauling a 233 with max-weight pilots off the ground with a Citabria on a really hot day; you get the idea pretty quick. Wink ("Speed up...speed up! ACCELLERATE, you miserable clunkin' ugly green piece of trash!!!! Grin )
And of course; add to that the little fact that you never...EVER... get experienced pilots on tow in those conditions; he's just GOTTA be letting the student handle the takeoff for the very...first...time...  Roll Eyes end result; the tail is flying around like a weathercock in a hurricane while the student back there seems to be doing his best to pass me; and I'm breaking my wrist trying to keep the damn thing level. Oh yes; flying tow's just a load of yuks.  Roll Eyes
And of course; you get one chance to land a glider; so it basically works out: tow pilots are good at takeoffs; sailplane pilots are good at landings. Smiley
 

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Reply #13 - Mar 24th, 2004 at 10:37am

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Quote:
 Try Sfs Airpark (80WA)


Do you have specific Terrain Mesh for the area? I went there and found the strip HANGING middle air 100 feet above the trees top! ???
 
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