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Fozzers Grand Day Out. The Final Stage! (Read 2154 times)
Feb 29th, 2004 at 4:36pm

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Hi All...!
For all those who popped in here a while ago... Wink...

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=cafe;action=display;num=10...

...to see the preperation for Fozzer Amazing Birthday Present...

Here are the final results.
Prepare to share in Fozzers Grand Day Out.... Grin...!

Hi Lads and Lasses...!
Took my 1 hour, Birthday flight today, FANTASTIC!
Fine sunny weather, variable cloud, 13 MPH gusty cross-wind from the north.
My lad Ian and his wife Pauline picked me up from my home and drove me to Shobdon airfield, (EGBS), 19 miles away.
Signed in, told the Instructor of my 7 years of flight simming, (in my Cessna 152!).
"Don't need to go through all the controls, radios and dials then...", he said...LOL...!
Entered the plane, door fastened, buckled up, headset on and plugged-in.
Fired my Avco Lycoming O-235 air cooled flat four up, glourious sound!
Checked all the controls, mags, flaps, trim, mixture, carb heat, fuel, radios, temps and pressures, etc....all in the green...!
Taxied to the 90/270 active tarmac runway, the instructor pushed the throttle to the stop, "It's all yours mate", he said...! FLIPPIN' WOWZERS!!
My little baby took off like a bat out of Hell even with the bumpy cross-wind.
Rotated her at 70 knots, climbed steadily at 700 FPM to 2000 feet AGL.
Banked 90 deg right, leveled off, throttled back to 75%, trimmed, and headed for my back garden 20 miles away, tipped the wings to my neighbours, and headed off for the Malvern Hills.
Climbed on full power to 6500 feet AGL through the cumulous clouds, (on instruments), to break out into a clear blue sky!
Dropped down through the clouds again, (on instruments), throttle off, carb heat on to skim over the Malvern Hills.
Bank again 90 deg, climb to 3500 feet AGL, re-trim, headed for the Clee Hills with a large shiny radar dome on the top.
Another 90 deg and headed for the Welsh Mountains, covered in snow, freezing outside but warm and cosy in the cockpit!
The view in front and down was fantastic, with the sun shining in columns through the breaks in the clouds and lighting up the fields down below!
Towns, villages, farms, patchwork fields, woods, castles, rivers, houses, and roads, dotted everywhere.
45,000 feet above us a few jet-propelled, aluminium cigar tubes full of bored passengers, leaving contrails in the sky.
No traffic around me though...all in my own!!
Time almost up, headed back to the airfield, throttle closed, carb heat on, 20 deg flap, re-trim, nice gentle slide-slip due to the cross-wind, to the parallel grass runway, no need for brakes!.
Taxi back to the FBO, re-set the controls, test mags again, shut down, remove headset and seat belt, exit to collect my signed flight certificate.
I am now a "certified!" real aviator again!
What a fantastic 70th. Birthday present. Thank you Ian and Pauline....and Dennis, my instructor, who just sat quietly relaxed by the side of me, and enjoyed the scenery...!
We went for a lovely meal afterwards to complete "Fozzers Grand Day Out".
...Looking forward to doing it all again...very soon...!
Cheers fellow aviators...!

Paul.

P.S. The real flight was much easier than the Microsoft simulator flight...!!!

So...
Here are the pictures... 8)...!

Taxi to the active runway, just look at those clouds!...

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Time to rotate, fighting against the wind.....

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A lot of flying went on here but I'm too busy flying and enjoying myself to take pictures at this point, and anyway, there's not a lot of room in a '152, (very cosy),  to take photo's... Wink...!

Coming back on short finals for a good landing... Grin...!

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Shut down my little motor... Smiley...!

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Congratulations Fozzer. You did very well!!

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Me, my little baby '152, and Dennis my instructor for the day... 8)...!

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...and as final proof of Fozzers Excellent Flying Activities... Wink...!
My lad Ian, Costa our friend, Happy Bunny Me, Katrina my Grand-daughter. Pauline, my lovely Daughter-in-Law took the photo... 8)...!

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Cheers all...!

FANTASTIC... Grin...!

Paul.



 

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Reply #1 - Feb 29th, 2004 at 4:42pm

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GrinGlad you had a great flight Mr Fozzer, and great to see the photos:)
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 29th, 2004 at 4:48pm

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Well done Foz. Grin

Delighted it all went well for you. Sounds like the ideal birthday pressie. No need to ask if you enjoyed it. Wink
 

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Reply #3 - Feb 29th, 2004 at 4:52pm

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Looks like you had fun. Glad you were restrained enough to not bomb Wales.... Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Feb 29th, 2004 at 5:18pm

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Looks like you had fun. Glad you were restrained enough to not bomb Wales.... Grin


Hi Woody...!
...funny you should mention that... Shocked...!
As we flew over the Welsh mountains he pointed out King Offa's Dyke to me down below.
"I'm very greatful for King Offa's Dyke", I said, "We occasionally fill it with petrol and set it alight to keep the Welsh out of England"..... Grin...!
"I come from Wales", my instructor said, as I quickly donned my parachute... Roll Eyes...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers mate... Grin...!

Paul.

 

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Reply #5 - Feb 29th, 2004 at 6:07pm

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...an interesting thing I noticed during my flight was that very little use of the rudder, (pedals), was necessary.

In the flight simulator whenever you bank with the ailerons the rudder pedals have to be moved as well, to keep the slip-ball centred to maintain a co-ordinated turn.
On the little Cessna, the left and right ailerons move at slightly different angles to compensate for the bank angle so the slip ball remains centered automatically...!
The rudder pedals are only necessary for really steep bank angles... Shocked...!
This is one of the things that makes the real Cessna easier to fly than the simulated Cessna.... Wink...!
...something new every day... Wink...!

Cheers all...!

Paul.
 

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Reply #6 - Feb 29th, 2004 at 6:25pm

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On the little Cessna, the left and right ailerons move at slightly different angles to compensate for the bank angle so the slip ball remains centered automatically...!

This is called aileron differential. On a conventional lifting aerofoil section the ailerons cause more drag in the Down position than Up which would make the aircraft tend to turn in the opposite direction when it's banked, requiring large amounts of rudder to compensate. The ailerons are set up so they move more Up than Down to correct this. Most aircraft & even radio-controlled model aircraft have this feature.

The rudder is rarely used in normal flight on jet aircraft.

PS. This explains how differential works on a simple R/C model. As with real aircraft there is a variety of different methods for doing it.

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/da-ailerondiff
http://www.mfarchive.modelstuff.co.uk/mf036/airspace.htm
 

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Reply #7 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 12:50am

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Glad you had a great time!

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Climbed on full power to 6500 feet AGL through the cumulous clouds, (on instruments), to break out into a clear blue sky!
Dropped down through the clouds again, (on instruments)


You're allowed to fly into the clouds over there? Here in the US, we're required to stay away unless flying under an IFR flightplan
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 1:19am

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That looks like you had a LOT of fun there Paul, the question is how many days will it take for the surgeons to get the smile off your face Grin
 

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Reply #9 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 3:15am

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As we flew over the Welsh mountains he pointed out King Offa's Dyke to me down below.
"I'm very greatful for King Offa's Dyke", I said, "We occasionally fill it with petrol and set it alight to keep the Welsh out of England"..... Grin...!
"I come from Wales", my instructor said, as I quickly donned my parachute... Roll Eyes...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

A Welsh instructor. Shocked Classic. LOL Grin

Couldn't have planned it better myself. Tongue Cheesy
 

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Reply #10 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 1:52pm

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This is called aileron differential. On a conventional lifting aerofoil section the ailerons cause more drag in the Down position than Up which would make the aircraft tend to turn in the opposite direction when it's banked, requiring large amounts of rudder to compensate. The ailerons are set up so they move more Up than Down to correct this. Most aircraft & even radio-controlled model aircraft have this feature.

The rudder is rarely used in normal flight on jet aircraft.

PS. This explains how differential works on a simple R/C model. As with real aircraft there is a variety of different methods for doing it.



Hi Doug...!
Thanks for the info on "aileron differential".
A little bit of mechanics normally hidden from the occasional viewer... Wink...!
I had a good read of the article, very interesting, and put it into my "Real Aircraft" folder... Grin...!
These aileron/rudder effects don't seem to be designed into the flight sim air files.... Roll Eyes...!
The slip ball on my sim Cessna complains bitterly if I don't use co-ordinated aileron/rudder controls in banking flight... Shocked...!
LOL...!

Cheers... Grin...!

Paul.

 

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Reply #11 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 2:07pm

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A big congrats to you Paul. Looks like you did very well........at the restaurant that is!  Wink
Glad you enjoyed your day and a very happy and healthy 70th birthday!!
Many, many more!!

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Reply #12 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 2:07pm

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Hi Foz. Having worked on light aircraft from an early age I tend to assume, quite wrongly, that everyone knows about aileron differential. In fact, on the good ol' Tiger Moths I was involved with at the start of my career, the Down aileron first moved down & then came back to neutral on full travel. This was when it was all set up properly. Wink

I've never really wondered if it's possible to duplicate this in the M$ flight model. I'm hopeless with FS flight dynamics. Roll Eyes

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I had a good read of the article, very interesting, and put it into my "Real Aircraft" folder... ...!

It's not very technical but the best I could find at short notice. I have much better & clearer descriptions in some of my old R/C modelling "bibles".
 

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Reply #13 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 2:27pm

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Hi all...!
Thanks for all my Birthday messages... Grin...!


..this little baby is mine now, and I'm not letting go of her... 8)...!

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LOL...!

Cheers all... Grin...!

Paul.

 

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Reply #14 - Mar 1st, 2004 at 3:11pm

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ok i am calling the clampers. A few planes seem to be parked on double yellow lines Grin
 
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