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Feb 27th, 2004 at 9:12pm

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And no not breasts either... Grin Grin Grin

but instead trucks...I know many people who own avalanches, and HUGE fords...unfortunately 99.7% of all of these trucks are automatic which in my honest opinion somewhat qualifies these trucks to be "fake" where it takes no talent to drive them such as with the manual transmission days...

Those who drive manual transmission trucks, I salute you...Smiley We are a minority in this modern day world...Smiley
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 12:35am

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hey, calling my (ex) JEEP a fake? grr.....
I wish my dad decided to get a stick trasmission put in when my sister blew the engine, that was a sad day Cry
but it survived, it even did battle against my friend's Monte Carlo and faced an evil fake brand new truck, a surburban and won Grin, little dent to jeep and jacked up front end to the Burb'  Smiley, not to be proud of my misadventures but how Jeeps are tougher than toe nails  Wink
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 12:38am

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also on the calling the new trucks with manual transmissions "fake,"  my Uncle, and Grandpa, both farmers prefer the automatics compared to the stick-shifters they had previously, they must have some sort of good reasoning behind it, otherwise they would have gone the cheaper route and bought stick ???
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 1:33am

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on a regular car, and especially a sports/high proformance car i would agree that it is a fake expiriance

for a new truck or an suv it is almost impossible to find a standard transmition
 

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Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 3:56am

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in my opinion not eough people are taught how to use a manual transmission, and while it wont completely dissapear, it'll become harder and harder to find. Which is sad
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 11:45am

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in my opinion not eough people are taught how to use a manual transmission, and while it wont completely dissapear, it'll become harder and harder to find. Which is sad


I agree with you, but the driving school I went to, should choose more wisely in their choice of stick shift cars, they decided to buy a Mitsubishi 3000GT, a 2 seat sports car for those without the money for a Corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Vipers......etc
 
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Reply #6 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 2:29pm
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cars,suvs,jeeps with automatic = fake
trucks with automatic = acceptable,since trucks have 18 gears or so (at least the european models).
 
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Reply #7 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 2:54pm

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cars,suvs,jeeps with automatic = fake
trucks with automatic = acceptable,since trucks have 18 gears or so (at least the european models).


bah to the jeep with an auto tranny statement

I don't think you'd want a truck with an automatic tranny, unless they have some sort of over ride for it, image going down hill with the rig fully loaded and you ride the brakes because you cant engine brake...ehhh wouldn't have brakes too long
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 3:09pm

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decided to buy a Mitsubishi 3000GT

beats the ford fiesta i am learning to drive in Grin
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 3:24pm

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whenever I tried to get that thing moving smoothly, I thought I was going to launch it straight into the vehicle ahead Shocked Smiley
 
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Reply #10 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 3:38pm
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beats the ford fiesta i am learning to drive in Grin


Vauxhall Astra Diesel (80hp). Wink

-edit: argh,i confused trucks (obviously pick-ups) with the big trucks (peterbilt,scania,mercedes). sorry!
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 3:59pm

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cars,suvs,jeeps with automatic = fake
trucks with automatic = acceptable,since trucks have 18 gears or so (at least the european models).


An automatic transmission & 44t behind you is a death warrant!

Besides, manual transmissions are vastly tougher than the auto's and tend to outlive by a ratio of 3 to 1 ! (My local bus company uses automatic Scanias, they frequently blow transmission's something you just don't do with a conventional box (despite split & half-split gearing!)

A few years back, I owned a rather battered 2.9litre 24Valve Cosworth engine powered Ford Granada/Scorpio, it was very quick and scary into bends unless you used the transmission as a "clutchless manual" - this great idea lasted about 3 months into my ownership of the car and it duly blew up the gearbox....

£300 (including fitting) followed by £300(!) to re-map the engine management system correctly to deal with a manual transmission (the car was never built with a manual box, thus fuelling was wrong etc) resulted in a vastly quicker car better fuel consuption and above all else, strong engine braking when entering corners.

Short of losing a leg, I'll never buy another auto as long as I hold my licence.

Anyway, manual transmissions are a doddle once you learn not to use the clutch. Wink

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Reply #12 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 4:06pm

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Vauxhall Astra Diesel (80hp).

LOL double my instructors car then:) i could get out and push it faster i think.
Personally though i had a serious case of wanting an automatic transmission  during my last lesson. Managed to stall it on a busy roundabout 4 times in a row, because it was a differant car to usual and she didnt have a working clutch on her side. It was her fault to start with, coming upto the roundabout i saw a car coming and i knew i could get round before it, she decided differantly and hit the brake. Of course this threw me due to no warning and i almost seriously lost it. Now if it affects my future lessons, i am definatly getting an automatic Roll Eyes as much as i like manual transmissions, that just threw me.
 
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Reply #13 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 4:45pm
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no,don't do that,craig. if you don't learn to drive with manual transmission now,you'll never learn it.
i for myself am happy to drive a car with manual transmission,since it keeps you busy instead of just accelerating and braking. how boring.

a hint: grab your mom and her car on a sunday and let her drive you to a parking area (in front of a big supermarket or so). you change seats there and now you can practice shifting or other things that you need to improve.
 
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Reply #14 - Feb 28th, 2004 at 4:49pm

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i am not allowed on both things:) My parents help me pay for my lessons while i cant work, and they refuse to put any money towards them if i dont learn on a manual(here you have to get your license on a manual transmission if you want to drive them, you cant learn in an automatic then switch after you pass your test)
as for driving my moms car, its a ford probe(classed by insurance company as a sports car)Roll Eyes so i cant get insurance on it, and she refuses to let me drive it without insurance even in a car park Cry
Its not really a case of needing to improve on the shifting, its a need to improve on communication between me and my instructor, like i said she slammed on the brakes when i had the intention of going, she said herself we prob could have made it but she didnt want to risk it. There was pleanty of warning coming upto the roundabout and she could have told me to stop before proceeding but she didnt
Ah well
 
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