Simviation Forum - Safe flying conditions..?

Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 1:55pm

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Hi real aviators... Grin

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Here is a test for you... Wink

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My trial flight in a Cessna 150/152 comes up in a few days time at my local airfield... 8)...!

Today the weather conditions were as follows:
Wind speed: Gusting to 29 MPH, (25Knots), Direction: NE.
Temperature: <43*F
Humidity: 70%
Clouds: Various, Overcast, 1000/1500 FT base.

Runway heading: 90/270. (East/West).

Under these conditions would it be considered safe to take off, fly, and land safely in a Cessna 150/152...?
Considering...>>

Wind speed?
Wind direction relative to the runway heading?
Freezing conditions? (Carburettored engine).

What would your opinion be...?

Cheers all...!

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Reply #1 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 2:06pm

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whats the tops on the clouds?
but with that sort of base i would say unlikely.
But the key thing is, whats the prediction for the day of your flight? and remember to call on the day

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Reply #2 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 2:38pm

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whats the tops on the clouds?
but with that sort of base i would say unlikely.
But the key thing is, whats the prediction for the day of your flight? and remember to call on the day

Hi Craig....
...Having arrived at the airfield, would you consider taking of in a 29 MPH, (25 knots), cross wind in a Cessna 152, with temperatures and humidity possibly low enough to freeze the carburettor, and maybe the wings......?

Cheers mate.... Wink

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Paul.

P.S. you know how much I worry about frozen carburettors...(been there, had it..)... Roll Eyes

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Reply #3 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 2:43pm

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LOL thats why you have the heating thingy:)
As for the temp, i had a lesson in the middle of december, in the morning, was much colder than that. so i wouldnt worry there.
The wind might be a problem, but like i said, its what the weather is like on the day. Obviously the best thing to do is call them on the morning of the flight to confirm it. I hope it goes ahead on the planned day and good luck and have fun with it:)

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Reply #4 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 3:24pm

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Don't worry old bean. It's a trial lesson I believe. They won't fly if it's not suitable. These people are pros - at least I hope they are. Roll Eyes

Providing the conditions are OK the weather in winter is usually much better for flying. Let's hope it's a nice day for your trip. Let us know how you get on.

PS. Caburettor icing is more likely to occur in summer than winter. From the conditions in your example I don't think you would have flown today. The wind seems a tad strong to me. Better luck next time. Grin

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Reply #5 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 4:44pm

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Hi Paul:

The conditions you have specified would make it seem unlikely you would go flying.

Each and every make and model of aircraft have a crosswind component.
I am not familiar with the Cessna 150 so I can not comment until I actually see an aircraft operating manual for that aircraft.
The cloud base you mentioned is also a factor limiting whether you stay in the circuit or not.
I am sure the pilot in command will take into consideration all the factors you mentioned.

I am sure you will have a GREAT FLIGHT on the comming day. We are all looking forward to hearing about it as well.

Cheers...Happy Landings....Doug

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Reply #6 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 7:24pm

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Hi Paul, to fly VFR you must be 1000ft above the highest point within (I think) 1.5 Nm cloud base must be 1000ft above you. The 152 is very small and light, most clubs limit the pilots weight to 14st. I flew a Piper PA28 in 26kt gusts and that was very turbulent !!! I dont think the 152 would go up in those winds. Good luck and enjoy But be warned its addictive!

p.s sorry about the spellings, let us know how you get on. Regards Chris

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Reply #7 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 8:24pm

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I wouldnt go flying in that, the winds are pretty high, the clouds are pretty low,

have fun with your flight there

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Reply #8 - Feb 24^th, 2004 at 10:48pm

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hmm..winds gusting to 29 knots...sounds like a heck of a bouncin ride in the 150/152...

I wouldn't try it for the first time in something that small..perhaps a kingair or cheyenne...

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Reply #9 - Feb 25^th, 2004 at 10:58am

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Paul, the only 'eye catcher' on your list is the wind. The key term here is: CROSSWIND COMPONENT. The winds you gave are at 45* to the runway, so figure about a 12-13kt component.
>What's the max demonstrated X-wind for a 150/152?

>What is your crosswind experience?(the airplane may be capable, but are you?)

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......

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Reply #10 - Feb 25^th, 2004 at 12:18pm

Meinas Ex Member
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what airport is this at?

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