Simviation Forum - paint shop=MS paint??

Feb 17^th, 2004 at 5:58pm

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one question i dont want to pay for paint shop pro so will the MS paint shop work on making new aircraft paints??? ??? ??? ???

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Reply #1 - Feb 17^th, 2004 at 6:04pm

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Most graphics editors will do. It really depends on your skill in using them. M$ Paint is not ideal for repainting textures. Try Pixia posted in the Utilities section here or PhotoPlus 5.5
http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/serif/ph/ph5/index.asp?ref=http://www.google.co...
Both excellent freeware programs.

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Reply #2 - Feb 17^th, 2004 at 9:06pm

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I have used microsoft paint to change id numbers on certain aircraft but thats about all its good for.paint shop pro is the way to go.if this is what you really want to do.

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Reply #3 - Feb 17^th, 2004 at 9:20pm

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Here's a link to Pixia's website...

http://park18.wakwak.com/%7Epixia/

This repaint was done using MS Paint

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Reply #4 - Feb 18^th, 2004 at 8:02am

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Get the demo that is free.

When it runs out just roll the clock on your comp back a year and use it again. Don't forget to set it back though.

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Reply #5 - Feb 18^th, 2004 at 1:40pm

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Paintshop Pro is definitely the way to go. (Unless you're feeling like dropping the cash for Photoshop. lol)

You've just gotta have layers. It makes life so much easier!

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Reply #6 - Feb 18^th, 2004 at 4:06pm

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which one works better or is most like paint shop pro so i can use the tutorial to help me? or does it really work to set back you clock a year on the 30 day trials if so im gettin FSDS if theres a trial.

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Reply #7 - Feb 18^th, 2004 at 5:22pm

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Which ones better? Adobe Photoshop is for the simple reason of the shear volume of plug-in filters which are available. However Paint Shop Pro is an exellent program also (I own both). If the main thing you want to do is model re-painting and basic photo editing, then go for Paint Shop Pro for the simple reason it is cheaper.

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Reply #8 - Feb 18^th, 2004 at 8:30pm

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Which ones better? Adobe Photoshop is for the simple reason of the shear volume of plug-in filters which are available. However Paint Shop Pro is an exellent program also (I own both). If the main thing you want to do is model re-painting and basic photo editing, then go for Paint Shop Pro for the simple reason it is cheaper.

"Most" Photoshop plug-ins will work with Paint Shop Pro 8.

Search the computer graphics magazines, because from time to time they have included PSP5.0 - full version - as a teaser to get you to upgrade to PSP7/8.

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Reply #9 - Feb 19^th, 2004 at 10:18am

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which one works better or is most like paint shop pro so i can use the tutorial to help me? or does it really work to set back you clock a year on the 30 day trials if so im gettin FSDS if theres a trial.

Of the two freeware programs I mentioned, Photoplus 5.5 is more like PSP. The user interface is very similar. I've not used Adobe Photoshop but I think Pixia is more based on that. Both have similar advanced features like Layers.

There is no trial version of FSDS, possibly for the reason mentioned. Nobody in their right mind would post a fully-functional free trial of their commercial software if it can be abused.

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Reply #10 - Feb 19^th, 2004 at 1:33pm

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I have always used M$ Paint. I H8 it!
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Reply #11 - Feb 19^th, 2004 at 8:48pm

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I Use Photo Impression

Got It Free When I Bought My Printer Grin

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Reply #12 - Feb 27^th, 2004 at 12:33pm

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I wouldn't abandon MS Paint completely as it has a very useful curve function that I use often on the nose of aircraft before finishing off my paint job by switching over to the more sophisticated Photoshop.

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Reply #13 - Feb 27^th, 2004 at 1:07pm

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I wouldn't abandon MS Paint completely as it has a very useful curve function that I use often on the nose of aircraft before finishing off my paint job by switching over to the more sophisticated Photoshop.

Taffy.

Taffy - you DO realize you're giving away a TOP SECRET of the Trade?

Many of us, while primarily using one program over another, will frequently "switch" to use a particular tool that one has over another.

You can say that "Paint Shop Pro and DXTBMP are all you'll ever need", but gee, then you see that MSPaint has this widget, and pixia has this other, but Corel Draw/PHotopaint 3 has this ... and then ...

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Reply #14 - Feb 27^th, 2004 at 4:39pm

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Many of us, while primarily using one program over another, will frequently "switch" to use a particular tool that one has over another.

I gotta agree with you, Felix

I normally switch between MS Paint, PSP and Pixia Grin

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Reply #15 - Feb 27^th, 2004 at 5:31pm

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You guys must be experts. I prefer to stick to one program if at all possible. I can't see the point of messing around learning how to use alternatives. PSP7 suits me & does all I could ever want + plenty more besides. Been using it for years & still find new features every time I fire it up. I'm sure PSP8 has even more features. Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Feb 28^th, 2004 at 7:17am

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You guys must be experts. I prefer to stick to one program if at all possible. I can't see the point of messing around learning how to use alternatives. PSP7 suits me & does all I could ever want + plenty more besides. Been using it for years & still find new features every time I fire it up. I'm sure PSP8 has even more features. Roll Eyes

I will admit that while having both PSP7 and PSP8 on my system, I do most of my painting in PSP7. However, the straightening tool in PSP8 is helpful, and pixia has a "tornado" effect that mixes/jumbles the pixels, sort of a brushed on noise effect, that reminds me of a similar tool that MacPaint had - when I used Macs back in 88-90

The vector drawing tools in Corel Draw are more powerful, I feel, than in PSP, and of course, I use Abacus FS Repaint to deal with alpha channels and detail touch ups.

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Reply #17 - Mar 3^rd, 2004 at 9:59pm

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ok thanks for the replys and help i got pixia and am using the psp demo. i like psp better because when you color it theres some stuff that wont color like the fuel hole place and the door handles suff like that. my question is can you do that with pixia

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Reply #18 - Mar 4^th, 2004 at 7:43am

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I don't use Pixia & have no knowledge of it. As I mentioned earlier, Photoshop 5.5 is more like PSP. [url]http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/serif/ph/ph5/index.asp?ref=http://www.g oogle.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=photoplus5&SP=
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As with most things it's a matter of preference. I always advise anyone to try all available alternatives until they find the one that suits them.

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Reply #19 - Mar 16^th, 2004 at 1:22pm

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You guys must be experts. I prefer to stick to one program if at all possible. I can't see the point of messing around learning how to use alternatives. PSP7 suits me & does all I could ever want + plenty more besides. Been using it for years & still find new features every time I fire it up. I'm sure PSP8 has even more features. Roll Eyes

Hehe, Hagar, PSP 8 has one feature that I'd buy it for (and did) alone....layer GROUPS!
It has made my life, as a certified layer junkie, much less hectic.

In the pics below, you can see that I have arranged my layers into right and left groups.

I can collapse/expand each group as necessary, and of course turn them off/on as required.

Here is the right layer group expanded. It is a pretty trimmed down layer set, and I'm doing much better since the therepy and the LAA group meetings have helped a lot, showing me that there are others in the world like me! Grin

(LAA...Layer Abusers Anonymous)

PSP8 has a lot more features I've come to like, but PSP7 will always have a special place in my heart, since its the one I learned on. (and its more streamlined than 8, so I still use it as my editor in DXTBMP, which works out very well).

And I totally agree on your philosophy of getting used to and using one program. Its hard enough to learn all the features of one, let alone several, and I've found that in most cases where I thought my main paint program did not do a feature I needed, it was just my ignorance about the product.

This is not to say I'm totally opposed to using whatever program has the features you need, I just like to keep it simply whenever possible.

Heck, I can guarantee that I have not even explored 30% of the features on PSP8, but what I have learned of the features I do know, its the best program out there to do repaints...at least for me. (again, it really goes back to what you're used to using, but if you are just starting out and are looking for a good repainting program, PSP is the best for the price/performance ratio, in my opinion) Wink

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Reply #20 - Mar 25^th, 2004 at 2:22pm

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I also went on a search for a freebie painter....tried dozens and ended up using Image Forge quite a bit. I will give PSP 8 demo a shot though as it's about time I bought a paint application.

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